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ShadowSoldier said:

twesterm and JRPGs are like this:

Trolling
With
Extra
Sinister
Techniques
Elaborating
Red
Mannerisms

I just wish he still had his last avatar.



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JRPGs are not dead... yet :P For some reason, developers aren't making as many JRPGs as they were during the PS1-PS2 era (at least not on PS3).

If JRPGs ceased to exist, it would be a very sad day and I would start playing less games than before :S



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Jdevil3 said:

JRPGs are not dead... yet :P For some reason, developers aren't making as many JRPGs as they were during the PS1-PS2 era (at least not on PS3).

There are about as many of the things floating around now as there were back then, they're just not on Playstation systems.  If you want your fix, you'll need a DS.  Production costs have pretty much pushed the genre off of consoles.



noname2200 said:
Jdevil3 said:

JRPGs are not dead... yet :P For some reason, developers aren't making as many JRPGs as they were during the PS1-PS2 era (at least not on PS3).

There are about as many of the things floating around now as there were back then, they're just not on Playstation systems.  If you want your fix, you'll need a DS.  Production costs have pretty much pushed the genre off of consoles.

Yeah, I know they aren't on PlayStation systems, that's why I said "at least not on PS3". I don't like the DS so I don't think I'll get one. I think I will be getting some JRPGs for the PS2 instead... I've seen a thread here a few weeks ago with a lot of PS2 JRPGs that caught my attention :P.

I hope production costs start dropping fast because I want to see more JRPGs on the PS3. Maybe Sony should do something simillar to what Nintendo did with the Wii and create a PS4 that's basically a PS3 just with a very small upgrade and a change in design. That way production costs should be way lower than they would be if they created a new system 10x times more powerful than the PS3 and we would have more JRPGs on the PS4 :D



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Jdevil3 said:

I hope production costs start dropping fast because I want to see more JRPGs on the PS3. Maybe Sony should do something simillar to what Nintendo did with the Wii and create a PS4 that's basically a PS3 just with a very small upgrade and a change in design. That way production costs should be way lower than they would be if they created a new system 10x times more powerful than the PS3 and we would have more JRPGs on the PS4 :D


I'm with you on that one: production costs really need to go down, for the good of all of us.  If there's another big leap in terms of graphics/horsepower, I hope the console manufacturers have some fantastic development tools ready first.



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noname2200 said:
Jdevil3 said:

I hope production costs start dropping fast because I want to see more JRPGs on the PS3. Maybe Sony should do something simillar to what Nintendo did with the Wii and create a PS4 that's basically a PS3 just with a very small upgrade and a change in design. That way production costs should be way lower than they would be if they created a new system 10x times more powerful than the PS3 and we would have more JRPGs on the PS4 :D


I'm with you on that one: production costs really need to go down, for the good of all of us.  If there's another big leap in terms of graphics/horsepower, I hope the console manufacturers have some fantastic development tools ready first.

Yeah, It really is for the good of all of us. I mean... Low production costs=more games (plus) Less sales needed for developers to break even or start getting money (plus) more opportunities for developers with low budget to create new games

I think this gen should be longer than previous gens before introducing new consoles in order to production costs to drop down with time.

Development time should also be shorter in my opinion... some games stay for too many years in development before being finished and released :S

 

Edit: Lol, the "plus" is not showing :S I've added the plus word instead of it, lol



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twesterm said:

So I'm playing FFXIII and watching the opening cut scene.  We have all this fantastic crap going on and I'm sitting there thinking damn that's cool, can't wait to do that!

And then I get control and I get two basic attacks and whatever the hell blitz (which looks just like a basic attack).  In the meantime the guy I'm not controlling is doing cool stuff, meanwhile, I'm not.

So while I was bored tapping the X button picking auto-battle because there really wasn't much else to do I started thinking-- what would I be doing in a good game?

I started thinking about Uncharted 2.  In Uncharted 2, all that fantastic stuff going on in that cut scene at the start of FFXIII, I would be doing that shit instead of sitting there with my hands behind my head watching it happen and then doing boring stuff when I do get control.

Now, so why do I say JRPG's are dead?  They love to rely on those crazy cut scenes doing fantastic stuff because that was just stuff you can't do in games.  Now, we can do that.  That means we're sitting there watching Lightning be some sort of action hero asking ourselves why we aren't the ones doing that.

Instead, I get to do auto-battle and then I'm greeted with 30 pages of a datalog?  This is the best JRPG's have to offer me?  JRPG's can't even tell me a story anymore, they have to have me read it in a datalog?


battle system evolves more later on especially when u get skills like army of one. FF13 it's about strategy. later on if u think fast u will oblirate in seconds on a rentless assault



I think the OP should have just said that he doens't like turn based RPGs, that's pretty much what he said.



NiKKoM said:

Does Twesterm ever not complain?


seriously he even't havent beginning the game and already complaining. just like a woman :p



twesterm said:

So I'm playing FFXIII and watching the opening cut scene.  We have all this fantastic crap going on and I'm sitting there thinking damn that's cool, can't wait to do that!

And then I get control and I get two basic attacks and whatever the hell blitz (which looks just like a basic attack).  In the meantime the guy I'm not controlling is doing cool stuff, meanwhile, I'm not.

So while I was bored tapping the X button picking auto-battle because there really wasn't much else to do I started thinking-- what would I be doing in a good game?

I started thinking about Uncharted 2.  In Uncharted 2, all that fantastic stuff going on in that cut scene at the start of FFXIII, I would be doing that shit instead of sitting there with my hands behind my head watching it happen and then doing boring stuff when I do get control.

Now, so why do I say JRPG's are dead?  They love to rely on those crazy cut scenes doing fantastic stuff because that was just stuff you can't do in games.  Now, we can do that.  That means we're sitting there watching Lightning be some sort of action hero asking ourselves why we aren't the ones doing that.

Instead, I get to do auto-battle and then I'm greeted with 30 pages of a datalog?  This is the best JRPG's have to offer me?  JRPG's can't even tell me a story anymore, they have to have me read it in a datalog?

Well, the fucked up part is you don't get the really cool moves until really late into the game. Though I just got the Asian version and am playing it again in Japanese, which is about 10 billion times better assuming you know some Japanese to know which English translation was bullshit, or just play it with Chinese subs. Japanese gaming is dying little by little though, just think about 3D dot and  all they've done was merge old games into a new one, RE5 is RE4 with Co-op, the only SRPG I can think of that's done something really cool was Valkyria Chronicles and they make a million of SRPGs every year, a fuck ton of dating sims, etcetc, it's like they are out of ideas these days. I'm afraid the west will start falling into that same pit soon with all those fucking shooters too since they've already fucked up the music games at this point.