HIGHEST EVER for 360 but not to beat Wii

While you are right as to why the PS3 rebranding worked,  didn't you forget the only reason the PS3 is still in the sales race? RRoD? Wouldn't rebranding help with that stigma a little? Huh? Maybe? Maybe not? Sure?

Rebrandin will not make people forget RROD.

also PS3's rebranding worked cause alot of people wanted to purchase a PS3,PS platform had a huge userbase in the past so they wanted to bring that image back for the PS3 which had a fat and expensive brand image

360 ARCADE and NATAL will not be lower than the Wii at any chance

you know that Nintendo will reduce Wii's price if seen competion from MS and SONY.and if Wii was to be at $149 this fall

how the hell will MS price it lower?

also the fact that MS really never sells their things for a loss.They market really well but still they never sell it at a loss

MS is not like SONY.Even if they needed market share they won't sell 360 loss and even if they did not for much

stop saying that i could be right and you could be right,talk sensible not just dreaming

"game over SONY"..............................rofl

have you gone bonkers?

no it won't work on 360 and it won't change the RROD thing too

you aren't understanding why PS3 rebranding worked

PS1 and PS2 were the most succesful consoles ever and the PS still has a big name.I mean alot of people still know what Playstaion means.

everybody wanted to buy a PS3 but it was expensive and it has different genre's of games,not exactly like what the previously PS1 and PS2 had

also it was considered a serious kind of console and serious games.PS1 and PS2 were considered to be the fun machine

so rebranding and price cut worked

as for 360,it is already at a low price.it has already been bought by everybody that had XBOX and it already is know as the 'COOL' and fun machine.

Plus its only in US that it is popular and there is has been exhausted even at a very low price

RROD is an issue but not that much.A person that goes in to buy a console doesn't at that moment think whether the console will die or not.He goes to buy a consoles think how much fun he will have with it and all the excitement.

So 360 rebranding won't do much

now if NATAL is a hit then it will make a people buy 360's but rebranding won't play much of a part in it

Lol i hope thats not the New Box art, looks horrible

If MS indeed rebrands the 360 with a pricecut and Natal is at a good price with some good games i think MS will easily beat Sony and maybe Nintendo over the holidays. The reason I think Natal will do wonders for sales is because MS wouldn't be spending tons of money treating it like a console launch if the thing didn't work well and they have some killer games coming out for it.

No offense, but that's the  most convoluted and round about reasoning I've ever heard. The PS3 rebranding worked because it dropped the price on the console by 100 dollars. The 360 rebranding will work fine.

A few things. The 360 is popular in places that aren't the United States. The RRoD stigma has significantly held back its popularity in Europe, imo, and a rebranding of any big 3 console will work a little, a redesign will work a lot. You can try to justify it to yourself all you want, but the 360 will see a sustained sales surge assuming there is a rebranding and redesign off the console.

In my opinion, it's the price cut that propelled the slim, and not so much the redesign. I think that due to the nature of RRoD, the redesign will help the 360 far more than it did the PS3(which isn't to say that it will have as big of an impact as a 100 dollar price cut).

If the 360 manages a redesign, rebranding, and successful Natal/Reach launch this holiday, then it will probably beat Sony handily, and Sony will have a SHTF scenerio on their hands. If there is one thing you foriegners underestimate about us American's it's our ability to buy redundant shit just because it's new. I don't really care if the rebranding works or not, but I can't see ANY WAY that it could possibly not make sales skyrocket for the console at least in the short term, assuming it manages a 199 pricepoint.

Again, at last E3 MS stated that they have a gameplan in motion to beat Sony this generation saleswise, and they probably weren't blowing smoke.

That would be pretty cool if MS did all this.

A 360 slim natal a free game or something for $299 all with new images/logos could be the kick in the ass the 360 needs.

I actually hope the 360 slim rumours are true because that may force me to buy one! I'm not buying natal though no matter how cheap it is.

What if it's free with the console?