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joeorc on 10 June 2010
Squilliam said:
joeorc said:
Squilliam said:

Google will be the big winner here. The bigger Google gets with the embedded devices the less relevant Sony's own PSN becomes as people will not want to use PSN when they can have portability throughout the Google ecosystem.


How So?

just because Google's market place could be an option does not mean everyone will still not want to use PSN.

or are you just thinking there would be no need for PSN, or you would Hope there would be no need for PSN?

lol.

PSN is free so why would you not use it?

It's a Win Win for both any way you know it..:P

you just do not want to admit it..lol

Google will control the internet on Sony products. They will be the ones who will profit in the long term, not Sony. Look at the situation with OEM PC manufacturers and compare them to Microsoft.


lol..dreamer

and as for trying to compare this to microsoft's situation it's not the same thing!

a) Android OS is open source

b) google share's the ad rev.

something Microsoft is not known for:

open source and sharing..lol



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WereKitten on 10 June 2010
Squilliam said:

Google will control the internet on Sony products. They will be the ones who will profit in the long term, not Sony. Look at the situation with OEM PC manufacturers and compare them to Microsoft.

Can't understand you here. Both Sony and Google will make their money differently from MS, because neither will make it from the proprietary platform itself.

At Google they don't sell licenses and they don't benefit from lock-in. Whatever your means to use the web you're bringing them more money. Thus, their business proposal gives the hardware providers absolute liberty as long as that brings more web traffic.

Sony on the other hand can use Android and standard web as the packaging for its offer of services and multimedia content. Boosting Android means boosting the number of devices that can consume your content, but the money is in the content, not in the package format lock-in.



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Squilliam on 10 June 2010
WereKitten said:
Squilliam said:

Google will control the internet on Sony products. They will be the ones who will profit in the long term, not Sony. Look at the situation with OEM PC manufacturers and compare them to Microsoft.

Can't understand you here. Both Sony and Google will make their money differently from MS, because neither will make it from the proprietary platform itself.

At Google they don't sell licenses and they don't benefit from lock-in. Whatever your means to use the web you're bringing them more money. Thus, their business proposal gives the hardware providers absolute liberty as long as that brings more web traffic.

Sony on the other hand can use Android and standard web as the packaging for its offer of services and multimedia content. Boosting Android means boosting the number of devices that can consume your content, but the money is in the content, not in the package format lock-in.

What about the app revenue and content downloaded? Firstly if they truly opened up content delivery then Sony consumers would have no lock in towards any device and secondly they would be the ones delivering the content to the consumer eventually if they aren't already.



Tease.

Reasonable on 10 June 2010

Makes sense to me on a number of fronts, and it could potentially shift the whole balance of the competition that's developed between Sony and MS.  Properly applied it could aid Sony (and Google) in getting themselves further into our living room's and homes and online acitivity and provide stiffer competition for MS attempts to do the very same thing.

Of course, a lot will depend on the two parties making a truly substansive partnership that delivers.



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WereKitten on 10 June 2010
Squilliam said:

What about the app revenue and content downloaded? Firstly if they truly opened up content delivery then Sony consumers would have no lock in towards any device and secondly they would be the ones delivering the content to the consumer eventually if they aren't already.

Let's get to the roots: the Playstation business was meant to make money by itself, but also to free the digital media consumption from the shackles of the PC industry. Sony has music and movies and hardware to sell, the less they have to rely on external proprietary techs and licenses the better.

In the end the PS did not conquer the living room, but standard smart appliances (e.g. web and Android based) might achieve the very same goal.

I'm pretty sure that as numbers grow there will be much more money to be made by selling content to a wider audience than resorting to lock-in for the margins on hardware.



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radha on 10 June 2010
DirtyP2002 said:

PLEASE not Google. I hate Google.

They are head to head with Apple and Siemens for the worst companies out there. Team up with Nokia if you want to, but not google.


WTF? are you crazy ? why do you think google is a bad company they are helping make everything open and standarize.



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megaman79 on 10 June 2010

A deal with Google is pretty inevitable for every console company going online, including MS eventually. That is not surprising at all, considering the amount of power they have.



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Wagram on 10 June 2010

I love google. Best search engine out there and also my home page.

I use bing when i'm buying something for the cash back, but that's it. Just to stick it to MSFT. Wuahahaha :D



joeorc on 10 June 2010

o'l holy hell,umm snicker's

:P

if you go here there's more developer info an new's:



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ps:

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Grimes on 10 June 2010
joeorc said:
Grimes said:

If the Sony/Google partnership is so strong, why is the X10 one of the last phones to get Android updates?

because it went out before ANDROID 2.2 was finalized

it does not mean that just because it was the last to get updates that it mean's their partnership is Weak, remember Google does not update Sony's software for them:P

There are numerous phones that are even older than the X10 and they are getting their upgrades much sooner. AFAIK, 2.2 isn't even announced for the X10 yet, 2.1 won't even be available for a while yet. The other handset makers seem to get their phones upgraded quickly, SE not so much.



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