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Lostplanet22 on 31 May 2010
badgenome said:
Doobie_wop said:
Just looked up a few more articles, watched some footage and yeah, Israel screwed up pretty badly and the article you posted is missing a lot of info. Internation waters and according to footage Israel fired shot's first, the ship raised a white flag and Israel still attacked.

According to the ICRC:

67. Merchant vessels flying the flag of neutral States may not be attacked unless they:

(a) are believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or breaching a blockade, and after prior warning they intentionally and clearly refuse to stop, or intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture


White flag =/=  Flag of neutral states.




 

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shio on 31 May 2010
mrstickball said:
The ship had weapons on it. Molotov cocktails from my understanding.

The ships also had assault rifles.

10 Israeli soldiers were wounded, with TWO in critical condition. If this was a peaceful ship, then by golly, why were so many Israeli's hurt? And the soldiers hurt were mostly from GUNSHOT WOUNDS.

However, I recognize this as a PR atrocity for Israel. 'Peaceful' protesters being murdered by the awful Israeli's. Despite Israel usually doing the right thing, this was a no-win situation. Either they get to Gaza and unload their bombs, or they get intercepted and this happens.

Israeli news are not good sources, they have been caught so many times lieing that it's no longer a joke.

The Israeli Government is a terrorist organization, fuck them. They try to block all aid coming to Palestine, with illegal methods. They killed hundreds of palestinian children last year, and blew up palestinian schools, hospitals and ONU facilities in Palestine.

 



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mrstickball on 31 May 2010

shio -

So what of all the videos showing the protesters attacking first? I don't think the Israeli's magically doctored that footage.



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Lostplanet22 on 31 May 2010
mrstickball said:
ameratsu said:
mrstickball said:
The ship had weapons on it. Molotov cocktails from my understanding.

The ships also had assault rifles.

Link please

Working on getting you the link. I am reading up on the ~5,000 threat forum at Militaryphotos.net, and from my understanding, the Jewish news sources are stating that they confiscated assault rifles.

'Til then, here are the peaceful protesters:


  I really don't see a fire bomb on that vid ...they can say what they want X_X;



 

badgenome on 31 May 2010
FootballFan said:
badgenome said:
FootballFan said:
It also seems to me that Israel doesn't belong in the middle east region and would be more suited to European mainland....but there you go.

So many countries (all?) are hostile towards them all within the same region.

I'm not so sure the situation would be all that different if they were suddenly to find themselves on the European mainland.


Europeans aren't hostile towards Jews or Isrealis for that matter.

I was joking. Mostly.



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badgenome on 31 May 2010
Lostplanet22 said:
badgenome said:
Doobie_wop said:
Just looked up a few more articles, watched some footage and yeah, Israel screwed up pretty badly and the article you posted is missing a lot of info. Internation waters and according to footage Israel fired shot's first, the ship raised a white flag and Israel still attacked.

According to the ICRC:

67. Merchant vessels flying the flag of neutral States may not be attacked unless they:

(a) are believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or breaching a blockade, and after prior warning they intentionally and clearly refuse to stop, or intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture


White flag =/=  Flag of neutral states.

No. Turkish flag = neutral state.

And you don't raise a white flag and then attack when the people to whom you're surrendering board your ship.



mrstickball on 31 May 2010
Lostplanet22 said:
mrstickball said:
ameratsu said:
mrstickball said:
The ship had weapons on it. Molotov cocktails from my understanding.

The ships also had assault rifles.

Link please

Working on getting you the link. I am reading up on the ~5,000 threat forum at Militaryphotos.net, and from my understanding, the Jewish news sources are stating that they confiscated assault rifles.

'Til then, here are the peaceful protesters:


  I really don't see a fire bomb on that vid ...they can say what they want X_X;

I didn't see a firebomb either. However, I still saw protesters attacking and trying to kill the soldiers. On Ameratsu's video, I saw soldiers dropping in on the ship and being immediately attacked without provocation from the soldiers.

Obviously, we will have to wait to see what happens when all the footage is in, but it would seem that the protesters threw the first punch. After that, we will have to see what all they find on the ships, and the video taken from all sides.



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Kamal on 31 May 2010

Who are really the aggressors?

 



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shio on 31 May 2010
mrstickball said:
shio -

So what of all the videos showing the protesters attacking first? I don't think the Israeli's magically doctored that footage.

That video only proves that the Israeli Government attacked and boarded a neutral ship in international waters, making them as bad as pirates. They killed 10 civilians that were protecting themselves from terrorists/pirates.



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stof on 31 May 2010

This is a crazy and complicated issue that deserves a good debate and exchange of opinions. Can't do that when some asshat has titled the thread "Israel Boards Terror Activist Fleet Attempting to Reach Gaza"

So I'm going to go ahead and lock this and start a new thread on the subject.



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