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epicberserk on 30 May 2010
craighopkins said:
Im hoping Rare has a title to show

well rumor that next month mag i think it game informer has that perfect dark zero 2 will be annouced at e3 for a holiday of 2011 launch dont know why it zero 2 cuz perfect dark zero was the prequel so idk



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lostintheodyssey on 31 May 2010
Goddbless said:
lostintheodyssey said:
Joelcool7 said:
Lyrikalstylez said:
Joelcool7 said:

I would really like to see a new IP for the X-Box. Thats the one thing Microsoft lacks solid first party IP's sure theirs Fable and Halo but most of the Microsoft IP's aren't system sellers and don't stand up to other first party titles from Nintendo or Sony. I would really like to see a new Microsoft platformer, seriously Blinx wasn't that great and with Mario owning the platform world I would love to see a new platformer

 

Im not trying to troll......But there still hasnt been an exclusive 1st party game from Sony that has even come close to Halo3, ODST or Gears 1 & 2

if those games arent system sellers I dont know what is

Your right they are system sellers. But honestly two system sellers versus like 5 or six for Sony and Nintendo. Look at Nintendo's system sellers many pushing 10-million units , Halo 3 is the only Microsoft title that I know of to actually make the ten million mark. Gears is beating some of Sony's IP's but again put it up against SmashBros, Zelda even MarioParty and you see it just isn't the strongest seller.

Sony has more IP's then Microsoft and Nintendo has more successful IP's then Microsoft. Some fresh new Microsoft IP's could come in real handy considering Microsoft's diminishing market shares!

You should probably take sony out of the equation when talking about system sellers.  The only game that they have that can be considered a system seller is Gran Turismo.  And according to vg chartz Gears beats not some but all of the ips that have been released by Sony so far by a good margin.

It's true that Sony and Nintendo have more ips than Microsoft but you have to take in to consideration the fact that they have been around a lot longer too.  They did not acquire everything they have in just one gen they had to build it up overtime.  Microsoft is doing the same thing Gears of War, Alan Wake, Crackdown, and Lost Odyssey are four quality titles that have been introduced this gen.  Halo, Fable, Project Gotham Racing, and Forza are four quality titles that Microsoft created last gen.  If they continue to introduce 3 or 4 quality titles each gen then Microsoft will have a portfolio of games that rivals Sony and Nintendo eventually.

But if you are talking purely sales than its apparent that Sony and Microsoft will continue to get left in the dust by Nintendo.  Nintendo has been around the longest and they own most of the software records. 

Microsoft's diminishing market shares probably has something to do with the fact that it is the oldest out of all the consoles and  it has made the fewest moves to increase interest at the moment.  Nintendo just released a new color for the wii which always increases sales and sony is still riding high off of the price drop, re design, and some of their high profile games like god of war 3 that saw its first appearance on the system recently.  I don't think it has anything to do with a lack of ip's.

But wait until e3 I'm sure all 3 companies will show off at least 1 or 2 new ips. 

 

 

This is all very true. On topic I hope Microsoft has a spectacular E3 because I think they need it the most out of the big three. Nintendo can't be touched and Sony has nothing to lose but everything to gain.

I agree even though Microsoft is ahead of Sony in sales it has always seemed more vulnerable.  Sony still has bigger name recognition and it can sell well in every territory.  The 360 has to maintain its lead in the west to even out sony's dominance in japan and a strong showing at e3 with new ips and returning favorites can go a long way to accomplishing that goal.



JerCotter7 on 31 May 2010
lostintheodyssey said:
Joelcool7 said:
Lyrikalstylez said:
Joelcool7 said:

I would really like to see a new IP for the X-Box. Thats the one thing Microsoft lacks solid first party IP's sure theirs Fable and Halo but most of the Microsoft IP's aren't system sellers and don't stand up to other first party titles from Nintendo or Sony. I would really like to see a new Microsoft platformer, seriously Blinx wasn't that great and with Mario owning the platform world I would love to see a new platformer

 

Im not trying to troll......But there still hasnt been an exclusive 1st party game from Sony that has even come close to Halo3, ODST or Gears 1 & 2

if those games arent system sellers I dont know what is

Your right they are system sellers. But honestly two system sellers versus like 5 or six for Sony and Nintendo. Look at Nintendo's system sellers many pushing 10-million units , Halo 3 is the only Microsoft title that I know of to actually make the ten million mark. Gears is beating some of Sony's IP's but again put it up against SmashBros, Zelda even MarioParty and you see it just isn't the strongest seller.

Sony has more IP's then Microsoft and Nintendo has more successful IP's then Microsoft. Some fresh new Microsoft IP's could come in real handy considering Microsoft's diminishing market shares!

You should probably take sony out of the equation when talking about system sellers.  The only game that they have that can be considered a system seller is Gran Turismo.  And according to vg chartz Gears beats not some but all of the ips that have been released by Sony so far by a good margin.

It's true that Sony and Nintendo have more ips than Microsoft but you have to take in to consideration the fact that they have been around a lot longer too.  They did not acquire everything they have in just one gen they had to build it up overtime.  Microsoft is doing the same thing Gears of War, Alan Wake, Crackdown, and Lost Odyssey are four quality titles that have been introduced this gen.  Halo, Fable, Project Gotham Racing, and Forza are four quality titles that Microsoft created last gen.  If they continue to introduce 3 or 4 quality titles each gen then Microsoft will have a portfolio of games that rivals Sony and Nintendo eventually.

But if you are talking purely sales than its apparent that Sony and Microsoft will continue to get left in the dust by Nintendo.  Nintendo has been around the longest and they own most of the software records. 

Microsoft's diminishing market shares probably has something to do with the fact that it is the oldest out of all the consoles and  it has made the fewest moves to increase interest at the moment.  Nintendo just released a new color for the wii which always increases sales and sony is still riding high off of the price drop, re design, and some of their high profile games like god of war 3 that saw its first appearance on the system recently.  I don't think it has anything to do with a lack of ip's.

But wait until e3 I'm sure all 3 companies will show off at least 1 or 2 new ips. 

 

 

Gears is from Epic which are 3rd party. So not really a Microsoft franchise. Can go PS3 at any stage after Gears 2 IIRC. Maybe it's changed now. And Alan Wake isn't first party either.

 

Also how the hell did this thread become MS vs Sony.....



lostintheodyssey on 31 May 2010
JerCotter7 said:
lostintheodyssey said:
Joelcool7 said:
Lyrikalstylez said:
Joelcool7 said:

I would really like to see a new IP for the X-Box. Thats the one thing Microsoft lacks solid first party IP's sure theirs Fable and Halo but most of the Microsoft IP's aren't system sellers and don't stand up to other first party titles from Nintendo or Sony. I would really like to see a new Microsoft platformer, seriously Blinx wasn't that great and with Mario owning the platform world I would love to see a new platformer

 

Im not trying to troll......But there still hasnt been an exclusive 1st party game from Sony that has even come close to Halo3, ODST or Gears 1 & 2

if those games arent system sellers I dont know what is

Your right they are system sellers. But honestly two system sellers versus like 5 or six for Sony and Nintendo. Look at Nintendo's system sellers many pushing 10-million units , Halo 3 is the only Microsoft title that I know of to actually make the ten million mark. Gears is beating some of Sony's IP's but again put it up against SmashBros, Zelda even MarioParty and you see it just isn't the strongest seller.

Sony has more IP's then Microsoft and Nintendo has more successful IP's then Microsoft. Some fresh new Microsoft IP's could come in real handy considering Microsoft's diminishing market shares!

You should probably take sony out of the equation when talking about system sellers.  The only game that they have that can be considered a system seller is Gran Turismo.  And according to vg chartz Gears beats not some but all of the ips that have been released by Sony so far by a good margin.

It's true that Sony and Nintendo have more ips than Microsoft but you have to take in to consideration the fact that they have been around a lot longer too.  They did not acquire everything they have in just one gen they had to build it up overtime.  Microsoft is doing the same thing Gears of War, Alan Wake, Crackdown, and Lost Odyssey are four quality titles that have been introduced this gen.  Halo, Fable, Project Gotham Racing, and Forza are four quality titles that Microsoft created last gen.  If they continue to introduce 3 or 4 quality titles each gen then Microsoft will have a portfolio of games that rivals Sony and Nintendo eventually.

But if you are talking purely sales than its apparent that Sony and Microsoft will continue to get left in the dust by Nintendo.  Nintendo has been around the longest and they own most of the software records. 

Microsoft's diminishing market shares probably has something to do with the fact that it is the oldest out of all the consoles and  it has made the fewest moves to increase interest at the moment.  Nintendo just released a new color for the wii which always increases sales and sony is still riding high off of the price drop, re design, and some of their high profile games like god of war 3 that saw its first appearance on the system recently.  I don't think it has anything to do with a lack of ip's.

But wait until e3 I'm sure all 3 companies will show off at least 1 or 2 new ips. 

 

 

Gears is from Epic which are 3rd party. So not really a Microsoft franchise. Can go PS3 at any stage after Gears 2 IIRC. Maybe it's changed now. And Alan Wake isn't first party either.

 

Also how the hell did this thread become MS vs Sony.....


The Alan Wake ip is owned by microsoft so that is their franchise even if remedy isn't a first party developer.  It's been said that Epic signed a deal with Microsoft to make the Gears trilogy exclusive what happens after Gears 3 is anyone's guess.  Finally this thread turned in to a MS vs Sony vs Nintendo thread because when evaluating the strength of a console you have to have something to compare it to.  People can say what areas microsoft is weaker in compared to its competitors and hopefully it will be addressed by its new studios and ips.



heruamon on 01 June 2010


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heruamon on 01 June 2010

I think ANY new studios being set-up by M$ to make exclusive content is a boon for Xbox gamers!



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