Im not trying to troll......But there still hasnt been an exclusive 1st party game from Sony that has even come close to Halo3, ODST or Gears 1 & 2

if those games arent system sellers I dont know what is

Indeed.

I'm hoping for great things from them.

Sony has a good crew of 1st prty devs..and they just started on thier sqls for ip's..where as msft hasnt*besides Halo n gears*

If been seeing msft making some behind the sceanes moves..which has me wondering just what they are up to.

Your right they are system sellers. But honestly two system sellers versus like 5 or six for Sony and Nintendo. Look at Nintendo's system sellers many pushing 10-million units , Halo 3 is the only Microsoft title that I know of to actually make the ten million mark. Gears is beating some of Sony's IP's but again put it up against SmashBros, Zelda even MarioParty and you see it just isn't the strongest seller.

Sony has more IP's then Microsoft and Nintendo has more successful IP's then Microsoft. Some fresh new Microsoft IP's could come in real handy considering Microsoft's diminishing market shares!

Hmm.

It's a shame really. Because M$ do have some quality titles that are worthy of system sellers and do stand up to Sony and Nintys offerings IMO.

Forza is a great series and has been the king ever since GT4 IMO. Forza 2 was worthy of any GT lovers money and so is Forza 3. Alan Wake is also fantastic. And I thnk if it was a PS3 exclusive would have sold alot more. It's telling that M$ have stolen some people from Sony,but it's clear that Sony still has the majority of fans who play certain genres. And why not? Sony make great games for those people. M$ are getting there. If anything the 360 has the WRPG crowd over SOny now thanks to this gen. But I agree. M$ need inhouse games of high quality in these genres to bolster what great titles they have already.

As long as they dont spend to much time on Natal at E3 or announce some "oh that previously exclusive game is now also on the 360". If E3 dont get that focus, i think MS will have a huge E3. Just a hunch. Somethings cooking. I can almost taste it :D

I want to see what Big Park have been up to, Joy Ride was suppose to release last year, yet nothing on it.

I think after seeing mod nation racers, they went back to the drawing board.

M$, P$3, $ony, D$.... YOU'D THINK BY NOW EVERYONE WOULD REALIZE THAT ALL THESE COMPANIES ARE IN IT FOR THE MONEY, AND NOT OUR WELL BEING

I guess I'm pretty behind on the rumors about who's doing what, because I'm not familiar with Firebrand.

The only thing that I know is we have Halo Reach, Joy Ride, Fable III, Crackdown 2 and Gears of War 3 as announced Microsoft Game Studio games. But we know they have more development houses and more games coming, we just don't know what. Would it be reasonable to announce some of those at E3? Makes sense, especially to show value in the console OUTSIDE of 'Natal/Wave'.

I'm not worried.

And in doing so have to think about our well being/hapiness.

You should probably take sony out of the equation when talking about system sellers.  The only game that they have that can be considered a system seller is Gran Turismo.  And according to vg chartz Gears beats not some but all of the ips that have been released by Sony so far by a good margin.

It's true that Sony and Nintendo have more ips than Microsoft but you have to take in to consideration the fact that they have been around a lot longer too.  They did not acquire everything they have in just one gen they had to build it up overtime.  Microsoft is doing the same thing Gears of War, Alan Wake, Crackdown, and Lost Odyssey are four quality titles that have been introduced this gen.  Halo, Fable, Project Gotham Racing, and Forza are four quality titles that Microsoft created last gen.  If they continue to introduce 3 or 4 quality titles each gen then Microsoft will have a portfolio of games that rivals Sony and Nintendo eventually.

But if you are talking purely sales than its apparent that Sony and Microsoft will continue to get left in the dust by Nintendo.  Nintendo has been around the longest and they own most of the software records. 

Microsoft's diminishing market shares probably has something to do with the fact that it is the oldest out of all the consoles and  it has made the fewest moves to increase interest at the moment.  Nintendo just released a new color for the wii which always increases sales and sony is still riding high off of the price drop, re design, and some of their high profile games like god of war 3 that saw its first appearance on the system recently.  I don't think it has anything to do with a lack of ip's.

But wait until e3 I'm sure all 3 companies will show off at least 1 or 2 new ips.