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nightsurge on 24 May 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:

most places are having it,if you only buy from mega-stores then its your problem.

 

search more on google and you will find $35-40 DS3's too,found them a couple of days ago

 

and the sale at amazon atleast isn't permanent.i have been cheaking almost eceryday their bestsellers and DS3 price has remained the same since August 2009.don't know about walmart

 

myself and my 2 other friends have ordered DS3 from them between this time and it for sure isn't temporary

and the other retail chains charging high would be charging low for other gaming related thing,thats how retail business works.sales too and profit too.

 

and what is it about proving me wrong,is that why you are writing big paras or to prove the truth.

Trust me, you don't have to try and educate me on how retail businesses work.  I own one.  I also know how hardware is revised and becomes cheaper.  I have a feeling I know a lot more than you on pretty much everything you seem to talk about.  That's why I keep trying to point out your errors.

And yes, the Amazon sale is temporary.  I have seen it many times throughout the year to be back at the full price of $55.

Even shopping tracker sites show the median price of the DS3 to be $50 which means prices range from $45-55.  In other words you are wrong again.  No where is it available for $40 or lower.

In fact, most of the smaller stores sell them for higher than big stores because they have a much smaller cash flow and have to make higher profit margins per item.  This is knowledge that comes from first hand experience with owning a retail business.



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Solid_Snake4RD on 24 May 2010
Xbbjf9s said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Xbbjf9s said:
Sooooo knowbody knows? I see numbers flying all over the place.

its stilll under $10 as new units haven't arrived and with shortages,it couldn't be that they aren't producing and keeping them and also trying to make less profit from it

 

under $10 as told by SONY


So they make around $800,000-$1,000,000 a week?

it wasn't said whether it is $4 or $9,he just said under $10

 

they would be making as you replied

 

but $1m is nothing for them as they have lost billions,jus the start for future profits



Solid_Snake4RD on 24 May 2010
nightsurge said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

most places are having it,if you only buy from mega-stores then its your problem.

 

search more on google and you will find $35-40 DS3's too,found them a couple of days ago

 

and the sale at amazon atleast isn't permanent.i have been cheaking almost eceryday their bestsellers and DS3 price has remained the same since August 2009.don't know about walmart

 

myself and my 2 other friends have ordered DS3 from them between this time and it for sure isn't temporary

and the other retail chains charging high would be charging low for other gaming related thing,thats how retail business works.sales too and profit too.

 

and what is it about proving me wrong,is that why you are writing big paras or to prove the truth.

Trust me, you don't have to try and educate me on how retail businesses work.  I own one.  I also know how hardware is revised and becomes cheaper.  I have a feeling I know a lot more than you on pretty much everything you seem to talk about.  That's why I keep trying to point out your errors.

And yes, the Amazon sale is temporary.  I have seen it many times throughout the year to be back at the full price of $55.

Even shopping tracker sites show the median price of the DS3 to be $50 which means prices range from $45-55.  In other words you are wrong again.  No where is it available for $40 or lower.

In fact, most of the smaller stores sell them for higher than big stores because they have a much smaller cash flow and have to make higher profit margins per item.  This is knowledge that comes from first hand experience with owning a retail business.

i wasn't trying to educate anyone,just that you just don't take other word to be true and keep bullshting with your thinking

and everytime to prove it you write big paras

amazon has 10 different pages of DS3,they all have different price the main one has been at $44 since august

keep your shoping tracker to urself and your whole educational speech,

 

in fact smaller stores sell at higher price-it depedns from stores to store,if one near your house sells at high rate then don't blame me

many smaller stores also sometimes set all prices low so quantity of sales may see higher profits than just sell few at higher price for low profits.public from areas to areas act differently.

 

i got a DS3 for $42 DOLLARS in JAN and i think so it wouldn't cost it more than $30 to make



nightsurge on 24 May 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
nightsurge said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

most places are having it,if you only buy from mega-stores then its your problem.

 

search more on google and you will find $35-40 DS3's too,found them a couple of days ago

 

and the sale at amazon atleast isn't permanent.i have been cheaking almost eceryday their bestsellers and DS3 price has remained the same since August 2009.don't know about walmart

 

myself and my 2 other friends have ordered DS3 from them between this time and it for sure isn't temporary

and the other retail chains charging high would be charging low for other gaming related thing,thats how retail business works.sales too and profit too.

 

and what is it about proving me wrong,is that why you are writing big paras or to prove the truth.

Trust me, you don't have to try and educate me on how retail businesses work.  I own one.  I also know how hardware is revised and becomes cheaper.  I have a feeling I know a lot more than you on pretty much everything you seem to talk about.  That's why I keep trying to point out your errors.

And yes, the Amazon sale is temporary.  I have seen it many times throughout the year to be back at the full price of $55.

Even shopping tracker sites show the median price of the DS3 to be $50 which means prices range from $45-55.  In other words you are wrong again.  No where is it available for $40 or lower.

In fact, most of the smaller stores sell them for higher than big stores because they have a much smaller cash flow and have to make higher profit margins per item.  This is knowledge that comes from first hand experience with owning a retail business.

i wasn't trying to educate anyone,just that you just don't take other word to be true and keep bullshting with your thinking

and everytime to prove it you write big paras

amazon has 10 different pages of DS3,they all have different price the main one has been at $44 since august

keep your shoping tracker to urself and your whole educational speech,

 

in fact smaller stores sell at higher price-it depedns from stores to store,if one near your house sells at high rate then don't blame me

many smaller stores also sometimes set all prices low so quantity of sales may see higher profits than just sell few at higher price for low profits.public from areas to areas act differently.

 

i got a DS3 for $42 DOLLARS in JAN and i think so it wouldn't cost it more than $30 to make

You wish to remain ignorant then.  So be it.  I tried to inform you so you would quit spouting this nonsense.

And the main model of DS3 on Amazon has been $55 quite a few times in the last year.  I've personally seen it at least 3 or 4 times.  These sales are temporary.

And I can guarantee you that the vast majority of small stores that sell video game stuff will sell it for a higher price than big stores.



Kynes on 24 May 2010
Kynes said:
What we can be sure is that IF Sony is earning more money than the sum of all their manufacturing and transport costs, it isn't the necessary amount to recover the personnel, marketing and research expenses. PS2 and PSP earn a healthy amount, Sony earns a considerable profit from PS3 first party and third party games and accessories, but they still bleed a considerable amount. The numbers don't add, so it's false that they are making money in the PS3 hardware, or they have some serious management problem.

I'll quote myself. Please someone explain me how, if PS2 earns a lot of money, PSP some money, PS3 games a lot in royalties, PS3 hardware a bit of money, how the Playstation brand bleeds so much money?

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Xbbjf9s on 24 May 2010
Kynes said:
Kynes said:
What we can be sure is that IF Sony is earning more money than the sum of all their manufacturing and transport costs, it isn't the necessary amount to recover the personnel, marketing and research expenses. PS2 and PSP earn a healthy amount, Sony earns a considerable profit from PS3 first party and third party games and accessories, but they still bleed a considerable amount. The numbers don't add, so it's false that they are making money in the PS3 hardware, or they have some serious management problem.

I'll quote myself. Please someone explain me how, if PS2 earns a lot of money, PSP some money, PS3 games a lot in royalties, PS3 hardware a bit of money, how the Playstation brand bleeds so much money?


You know I never thought about that, someone answer this.



nightsurge on 24 May 2010
Xbbjf9s said:
Kynes said:
Kynes said:
What we can be sure is that IF Sony is earning more money than the sum of all their manufacturing and transport costs, it isn't the necessary amount to recover the personnel, marketing and research expenses. PS2 and PSP earn a healthy amount, Sony earns a considerable profit from PS3 first party and third party games and accessories, but they still bleed a considerable amount. The numbers don't add, so it's false that they are making money in the PS3 hardware, or they have some serious management problem.

I'll quote myself. Please someone explain me how, if PS2 earns a lot of money, PSP some money, PS3 games a lot in royalties, PS3 hardware a bit of money, how the Playstation brand bleeds so much money?


You know I never thought about that, someone answer this.

A major portion of it has to be PSN.  Other than that I'm not sure what could be causing the large negative numbers.



Kynes on 24 May 2010
nightsurge said:
Xbbjf9s said:
Kynes said:
Kynes said:
What we can be sure is that IF Sony is earning more money than the sum of all their manufacturing and transport costs, it isn't the necessary amount to recover the personnel, marketing and research expenses. PS2 and PSP earn a healthy amount, Sony earns a considerable profit from PS3 first party and third party games and accessories, but they still bleed a considerable amount. The numbers don't add, so it's false that they are making money in the PS3 hardware, or they have some serious management problem.

I'll quote myself. Please someone explain me how, if PS2 earns a lot of money, PSP some money, PS3 games a lot in royalties, PS3 hardware a bit of money, how the Playstation brand bleeds so much money?


You know I never thought about that, someone answer this.

A major portion of it has to be PSN.  Other than that I'm not sure what could be causing the large negative numbers.

If it's that, then it's the biggest mismanagement in the history of videogames, bigger than the garbage that was the Atari Jaguar.



Xbbjf9s on 24 May 2010
nightsurge said:
Xbbjf9s said:
Kynes said:
Kynes said:
What we can be sure is that IF Sony is earning more money than the sum of all their manufacturing and transport costs, it isn't the necessary amount to recover the personnel, marketing and research expenses. PS2 and PSP earn a healthy amount, Sony earns a considerable profit from PS3 first party and third party games and accessories, but they still bleed a considerable amount. The numbers don't add, so it's false that they are making money in the PS3 hardware, or they have some serious management problem.

I'll quote myself. Please someone explain me how, if PS2 earns a lot of money, PSP some money, PS3 games a lot in royalties, PS3 hardware a bit of money, how the Playstation brand bleeds so much money?


You know I never thought about that, someone answer this.

A major portion of it has to be PSN.  Other than that I'm not sure what could be causing the large negative numbers.


Which would be why the are offering premium services? They also have merged labtops and other gadgets with the ps brand in one division, could it be the ps brand is fine but taking the hit for crappier sony products?



nightsurge on 24 May 2010
Xbbjf9s said:
nightsurge said:
Xbbjf9s said:
Kynes said:
Kynes said:
What we can be sure is that IF Sony is earning more money than the sum of all their manufacturing and transport costs, it isn't the necessary amount to recover the personnel, marketing and research expenses. PS2 and PSP earn a healthy amount, Sony earns a considerable profit from PS3 first party and third party games and accessories, but they still bleed a considerable amount. The numbers don't add, so it's false that they are making money in the PS3 hardware, or they have some serious management problem.

I'll quote myself. Please someone explain me how, if PS2 earns a lot of money, PSP some money, PS3 games a lot in royalties, PS3 hardware a bit of money, how the Playstation brand bleeds so much money?


You know I never thought about that, someone answer this.

A major portion of it has to be PSN.  Other than that I'm not sure what could be causing the large negative numbers.


Which would be why the are offering premium services? They also have merged labtops and other gadgets with the ps brand in one division, could it be the ps brand is fine but taking the hit for crappier sony products?

Im pretty sure their laptops division did incredibly well this past fiscal year so it likely isn't that.  The premium services are probably a big part of them trying to be profitable on PSN.  So far they have said they still have not made any profit with it so it has to account for at least some of the loss.  Not sure how much but I'd be willing to bet it's a pretty sizable amount.