People could just not like the games, I've had the Wii for a while, I also have a healthy income coming in weekly and I buy game's pretty often. When I go to a store and I look at the game's on offer, I can't bring myself to buy any of them because I believe from what I've seen that they are very low quality games. The only game's I see that are worth owning on the Wii are the first party game's and they are much more expensive than the software on every other platform (Brawl and Galaxy are still $80 each). 

I gave the Wii a fair go, I borrowed and rented a lot of the big game's and I didn't like any of them enough to buy (except for No More Heroes). The control's aren't for everyone, I tried to play Brawl and Mario Galaxy on the Wiimote and it was just disgusting. Red Steel was a broken game, Ghost Squad was just a short low quality rail shooter and Raving Rabbids was decent. 

It's also hard finding the good game's on the Wii when my gaming purchases are limited to Barbie Party, Masterchef and My Word Coach. I'm not saying their the only game's that the Wii have, but it's what's shoved at me every time I got to a store and I'm not spending more on a game just so I can get one from Ebay.

I blame a lot of the problem's I have with the Wii on Nintendo, but I'm also happy that they're successful once again and I hope that in the future they at least try and slow down the amount of shovelware piling up on their system, incorporate some better hardware, try and pull some better Third Party Software in and not limit my gaming method's to a pretty (IMO) rubbish controller.

I've yet to see someone say that Mario Sunshine was better than SMG, i think you're the first, that game was just so boring.

It may have been the timing and my age at that time, I also think Luigi's Mansion and Star Fox Adventures are some of the best platformers Nintendo has ever created, the majority of people don't agree

I think SMS >>>>>>> SMG

Both aren't that great though.

I don't get how people get this idea in their heads that because Wii has a tremendous amount of shovelware that it somehow means there are no or few good games. Take away all the shovelware, and Wii still has dozens upon dozens of great games. By now, I have played probably 40-50 Wii games over the course of 3 and a half years, either from purchase, renting, borrowing, or playing at family and friends' houses, and a good portion of those games I would consider at least good, if not great - and I would consider myself somewhat of a picky gamer.

Not to mention there are still tons more Wii games I have NOT played that are supposedly very good based on reviews and what I've heard from people, (No More Heroes 1 and 2, Red Steel 2, Endless Ocean 2, Capcom vs Tansunoko, De Blob, Boom Blox, Rabbids Go Home, Fragile, Cursed Mountain, COD: Reflex, Animal Crossing, Sky Crawlers, The Godfather, Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, A Boy and His Blob, Fire Emblem, Battallian Wars 2, Elebits, Geometry Wars: Galaxies, Rune Factory: Frontier, Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of a New World, Deadly Creatures, Monster Lab, Nitrobike, Okami, Dead Space: Extraction, Resident Evil: Darkside Chronicles, Trauma Center: New Blood and Second Opinion, etc etc..)

I think many of these games simply get lost in the shuffle from the lack of advertising and lack of hype, and all the shovelware burrying it. But that doesn't mean they are not there. You just have to look a little harder. Most of it just doesn't get right up in your face with bombardments of advertising like software on the HD consoles tend to do.

That said, I know the Wii isn't for everybody. I'm just saying just because you don't see very many Wii games worth checking out, doesn't mean they are not there.

Greasy moustachioed, beer bellied Italian plumbers give me the creeps, why would I want to play with one? Zelda has always been the one and only draw for me to buy a Nintendo system. But I haven't bought one yet, because one game isn't worth the price of another console.

However I'm not a core gamer, just semi-core, so this thread isn't aimed at me.

Eh? Lol, neiter of them are platformers though.

But both of them were good games, I agree.

First of all, Don't get me wrong, Galaxy 2 looks like a great game and as long as it's better than the first offering, it DESERVES GoTY from anybody.

having said that. Don't even get me started with IGN reviews.

10 Sound
A much stronger saturation of "big band" tunes here, and that's just awesome.


really? 10 for Sounds??? I'm not saying Mario games don't have good music, but seriously, after playing Galaxy for 20 hours, I'm so sick of hearing the same sounds

All proper gamers already own a Wii though. A proper gamer owns all the consoles isn't that obvious?

The PS3 and 360 may share a similar library but I can think of at least 15 Xbox 360 exclusives (im a PS3 owner) that would be worth buying if I bought a Xbox360, I can't say the same for the wii because its game library doesn't appeal to my gaming tastes for the most part. So if I was to buy another console, which I won't because I don't have the time to play all the games I buy for my PS3, I would buy a 360 over the wii because it suits my gaming preferences better than the wii would.