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Cactus on 20 May 2010
9009pc said:
Cactus said:
axumblade said:
Dr.A.Peter.Nintendo said:
Lol... they already started copying Nintendo.
Where would Sony and Microsoft be without Nintendo?
The answer is that they wouldn't have started gaming.

It's funny how you say that Sony and Microsoft are copying Nintendo when Nintendo are implimenting it into their handheld and it was announced THIS YEAR whereas, Sony and Microsoft have both been working on implimenting 3D into their home consoles for quite some time. But no, keep on badmouthing something that you didn't bother to read anything about. ;)

You have a point, but it hinges on the assumption that Nintendo hadn't been working on the 3DS before it's announcement. Just because Sony and Microsoft announced their intention to use 3D before Nintendo did, it doesn't mean that Nintendo's years of work on the 3DS mean nothing. I mean, it's not like 3D is something they could tack on at the end of development. They must have been working on it for years.

that same argument rings true for move.

 

...and? I never said it didn't.
Although I will say that I believe PS Move to be a slightly different scenario because even though Sony were likely working on it for a long time, they obviously modeled it with the Wiimote in mind as development is known, based on Sony's public quotes pertaining to motion control, to have started after the launch of the Wii.
Anyway, I'm just not a fan of anybody crying "x copied y" to be honest. Everybody copies everybody else, and pointing every instance out just becomes redundant and annoying.

Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. I'm not talking about move, though, I'm talking about the 3DS.

 



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pariz on 20 May 2010
9009pc said:
Cactus said:
axumblade said:
Dr.A.Peter.Nintendo said:
Lol... they already started copying Nintendo.
Where would Sony and Microsoft be without Nintendo?
The answer is that they wouldn't have started gaming.

It's funny how you say that Sony and Microsoft are copying Nintendo when Nintendo are implimenting it into their handheld and it was announced THIS YEAR whereas, Sony and Microsoft have both been working on implimenting 3D into their home consoles for quite some time. But no, keep on badmouthing something that you didn't bother to read anything about. ;)

You have a point, but it hinges on the assumption that Nintendo hadn't been working on the 3DS before it's announcement. Just because Sony and Microsoft announced their intention to use 3D before Nintendo did, it doesn't mean that Nintendo's years of work on the 3DS mean nothing. I mean, it's not like 3D is something they could tack on at the end of development. They must have been working on it for years.

that same argument rings true for move.

Does nobody remember the Virtua Boy and how it worked?



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Cactus on 20 May 2010
enrageorange said:
Cactus said:
axumblade said:
Dr.A.Peter.Nintendo said:
Lol... they already started copying Nintendo.
Where would Sony and Microsoft be without Nintendo?
The answer is that they wouldn't have started gaming.

It's funny how you say that Sony and Microsoft are copying Nintendo when Nintendo are implimenting it into their handheld and it was announced THIS YEAR whereas, Sony and Microsoft have both been working on implimenting 3D into their home consoles for quite some time. But no, keep on badmouthing something that you didn't bother to read anything about. ;)

You have a point, but it hinges on the assumption that Nintendo hadn't been working on the 3DS before it's announcement. Just because Sony and Microsoft announced their intention to use 3D before Nintendo did, it doesn't mean that Nintendo's years of work on the 3DS mean nothing. I mean, it's not like 3D is something they could tack on at the end of development. They must have been working on it for years.

the 360 was  in development before the 3ds, unless they started working on the 3ds around the same time they were still in development of the ds..

Ok, but what does that have to do with what I said? My point was that we know nothing about development times of these devices and I voiced my general disagreement with axumblade's response.



patjuan32 on 20 May 2010
9009pc said:
Cactus said:
axumblade said:
Dr.A.Peter.Nintendo said:
Lol... they already started copying Nintendo.
Where would Sony and Microsoft be without Nintendo?
The answer is that they wouldn't have started gaming.

It's funny how you say that Sony and Microsoft are copying Nintendo when Nintendo are implimenting it into their handheld and it was announced THIS YEAR whereas, Sony and Microsoft have both been working on implimenting 3D into their home consoles for quite some time. But no, keep on badmouthing something that you didn't bother to read anything about. ;)

You have a point, but it hinges on the assumption that Nintendo hadn't been working on the 3DS before it's announcement. Just because Sony and Microsoft announced their intention to use 3D before Nintendo did, it doesn't mean that Nintendo's years of work on the 3DS mean nothing. I mean, it's not like 3D is something they could tack on at the end of development. They must have been working on it for years.

that same argument rings true for move.

No, actually it can't. The move is heavy influenced by the Wii remote and Nunchuck.



If Nintendo is successful at the moment, it’s because they are good, and I cannot blame them for that. What we should do is try to be just as good.----Laurent Benadiba

 

patapon on 20 May 2010

(Looks at above conversation)

(Turns away in shame)



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9009pc on 20 May 2010
patjuan32 said:
9009pc said:
Cactus said:
axumblade said:
Dr.A.Peter.Nintendo said:
Lol... they already started copying Nintendo.
Where would Sony and Microsoft be without Nintendo?
The answer is that they wouldn't have started gaming.

It's funny how you say that Sony and Microsoft are copying Nintendo when Nintendo are implimenting it into their handheld and it was announced THIS YEAR whereas, Sony and Microsoft have both been working on implimenting 3D into their home consoles for quite some time. But no, keep on badmouthing something that you didn't bother to read anything about. ;)

You have a point, but it hinges on the assumption that Nintendo hadn't been working on the 3DS before it's announcement. Just because Sony and Microsoft announced their intention to use 3D before Nintendo did, it doesn't mean that Nintendo's years of work on the 3DS mean nothing. I mean, it's not like 3D is something they could tack on at the end of development. They must have been working on it for years.

that same argument rings true for move.

No, actually it can't. The move is heavy influenced by the Wii remote and Nunchuck.

the aesthetic looks and the inclusion of the nav maybe, but joeorc posted this http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=103904 a while back after gdc. it provides evidence that sony has been working on a device to work with there camera technology in the works since before the article was written in 2003.

anyway I have started to de-rail this thread so I am leaving before I pull it of the tracks. 



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stop me if I am bias
I love a good civilised debate (but only if we can learn something).

 

forest-spirit on 20 May 2010

The "who copied who" debate is so old and pointless...why can't we just let it go?

OT:
I now Microsoft doesn't have a handheld of their own, but it's great to see companies complementing a competitor for a change.



c0rd on 20 May 2010
Barozi said:
yes and Nintendo did never copy anything *rolleyes*

They didn't!


But seriously, even if Nintendo did pioneer 3D, it's only a sustaining innovation (like Sony's move to CD's with the PS1), so it'd be nothing to brag about. These things are natural improvements, unlike say, the standard controller to the Wiimote.

As for giving the 3DS the thumbs up, we haven't even seen it yet! I personally can't comment until I see it in action, I will say that I'm hoping for more than just a DS with 3D visuals.



DirtyP2002 on 20 May 2010
Cactus said:
axumblade said:
Dr.A.Peter.Nintendo said:
Lol... they already started copying Nintendo.
Where would Sony and Microsoft be without Nintendo?
The answer is that they wouldn't have started gaming.

It's funny how you say that Sony and Microsoft are copying Nintendo when Nintendo are implimenting it into their handheld and it was announced THIS YEAR whereas, Sony and Microsoft have both been working on implimenting 3D into their home consoles for quite some time. But no, keep on badmouthing something that you didn't bother to read anything about. ;)

You have a point, but it hinges on the assumption that Nintendo hadn't been working on the 3DS before it's announcement. Just because Sony and Microsoft announced their intention to use 3D before Nintendo did, it doesn't mean that Nintendo's years of work on the 3DS mean nothing. I mean, it's not like 3D is something they could tack on at the end of development. They must have been working on it for years.


You can play Avatar in 3D  on your Xbox 360 today and you are saying MS might have "copied" Nintendo because they will release a 3D machine in a few months and have been working on it for quite some time. So MS copied a never announced product they did not know about and still is not released.

"OK"



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Cactus on 20 May 2010
DirtyP2002 said:
Cactus said:
axumblade said:
Dr.A.Peter.Nintendo said:
Lol... they already started copying Nintendo.
Where would Sony and Microsoft be without Nintendo?
The answer is that they wouldn't have started gaming.

It's funny how you say that Sony and Microsoft are copying Nintendo when Nintendo are implimenting it into their handheld and it was announced THIS YEAR whereas, Sony and Microsoft have both been working on implimenting 3D into their home consoles for quite some time. But no, keep on badmouthing something that you didn't bother to read anything about. ;)

You have a point, but it hinges on the assumption that Nintendo hadn't been working on the 3DS before it's announcement. Just because Sony and Microsoft announced their intention to use 3D before Nintendo did, it doesn't mean that Nintendo's years of work on the 3DS mean nothing. I mean, it's not like 3D is something they could tack on at the end of development. They must have been working on it for years.


You can play Avatar in 3D  on your Xbox 360 today and you are saying MS might have "copied" Nintendo because they will release a 3D machine in a few months and have been working on it for quite some time. So MS copied a never announced product they did not know about and still is not released.

"OK"

I did? Where?