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im becoming more anti religionous everyday. this was just? well? i don't have words for it. i beleave something or someone made this all possible, but why all the dif religions?



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stof said:
Akvod said:
stof said:



Akvod said:

But see, the difference is that neither Family Guy writers, nor myself, see the show as being the pinacle of comedy as you and MT claim South Park is.

I barely watch Family Guy, but at least I can kill a decent 15 minutes with it, than I can with South Park today. It's a shame, since I used to actually watch that show regularly. Now? Nope.


I've never claimed Southpark was the best cartoon, but watch this season's "Medicinal Kentucky Fried Chicken" Episode of South Park. It's freaking hillarious. 
And you don't kill 15 minutes with Family guy, it kills you for 15 minutes. Least funny cartoon on television before American Dad came out.

I never said you did...

And I'll watch it, only if you admit that there were some recently horrible seasons for South Park, that they were hypocrites, and why they're different now.

I never said you said I did... Just labeling myself as outside of that group.

And sure I'll admit it, except I can't say because I'm an infrequent watcher. But I find that their being political and culturally topical is usually a benefit to the show, as there tends to be a lot of humour in the truth. I think the Simpsons could have learned a lot from south park (or got off the air years ago to save face).

 

But I will never ever ever offer a single compliment to Family guy other than that Stewie was a funny character at the very beginning of the show. An evil genius with the naivete of a child was a great idea. Quickly turning him in to an one stop shop for every single stupid joke they could think of was a bad idea. I consider enjoying Family guy to be a character flaw.

I consider condescension a character flaw. 

Both shows are incredibly stupid, overly ridiculous, and full of so much political bias that it will almost make you want to puke. But they're stupid fun nonetheless. And both shows have equally shitty, predictable formulas; albeit in different styles.

Point is...Futurama is better than both.



 

 

MontanaHatchet said:

I consider condescension a character flaw. 

Both shows are incredibly stupid, overly ridiculous, and full of so much political bias that it will almost make you want to puke. But they're stupid fun nonetheless. And both shows have equally shitty, predictable formulas; albeit in different styles.

Point is...Futurama is better than both.

Futurama>All.

Can we stop arguing and just agree on that fact?



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Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

Watch from about 1:30, it's hilarious.



I don't know what the hell is going on in the topic but Futurama>>>>>>Southpark+family guy



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Sqrl said:
Rath said:
pizzahut451 said:
Thatmax said:
pizzahut451 said:
when I see threads like this, I'm glad I identify myself as christian

Thats not as clever as you think it is...

well i wasnt trying to be ''clever'' or anything. im glad i am not in one of the most arrogant group of people in the world

Which group is this? The one that claims to know utterly the absolute meaning of the universe or the one that claims to be almost entirely ignorant?

@this sort of discussion in general,

I don't know why people get into this.

Both the devoutly religous and the devoutly non-religious have those among them who are arrogantly certain of their beliefs.  Neither has cornered the market on sanctimony or general douchebaggery.

All of which bares it self out every time two or more people get together to try and convince each other that one side or the other is really worse about it than the other.

The bottom line is neither side can be sure their right, and neither side is going to convince the other their wrong.  So really the only reasons left to have the discussion is if you just enjoy arguing about it or if you're interested in theology/philosophy.  I'm all for the later kind of discussion but I can't help but get the sense that this is not exactly where this is headed right now, ya know what I mean?

 

 

Agree entirely on all of this.



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Rath said:
Sqrl said:
Rath said:
pizzahut451 said:
Thatmax said:
pizzahut451 said:
when I see threads like this, I'm glad I identify myself as christian

Thats not as clever as you think it is...

well i wasnt trying to be ''clever'' or anything. im glad i am not in one of the most arrogant group of people in the world

Which group is this? The one that claims to know utterly the absolute meaning of the universe or the one that claims to be almost entirely ignorant?

@this sort of discussion in general,

I don't know why people get into this.

Both the devoutly religous and the devoutly non-religious have those among them who are arrogantly certain of their beliefs.  Neither has cornered the market on sanctimony or general douchebaggery.

All of which bares it self out every time two or more people get together to try and convince each other that one side or the other is really worse about it than the other.

The bottom line is neither side can be sure their right, and neither side is going to convince the other their wrong.  So really the only reasons left to have the discussion is if you just enjoy arguing about it or if you're interested in theology/philosophy.  I'm all for the later kind of discussion but I can't help but get the sense that this is not exactly where this is headed right now, ya know what I mean?

 

 

Agree entirely on all of this.

Actually, this is a pretty bad argument.

The problem is, there are a wide variety of religions and different religious interpretations and all religions claim to be the truth.

I'll clarify what I mean:

 

Assume any particular religion and/or religious sect is correct in their beliefs. That is to say a religion is entirely 100% correct as they've claimed.

Why does this create a problem for many religious followers?

Answer: Because if one religion, or religious sect IS the truth, then ALL other religious beliefs (and different sects to some extent) are false beliefs.

Atheism, commonly thought of as the rude, brash, childish, and even juvenille of all belief systems OBJECTIVELY disagrees with ALL religious beliefs because of their basics.

A believer of a religion believes their religion is right (and commonly will spend their entire lives believing in said religion) and is, in fact, an atheist to all other beliefs that don't agree with theirs.

So, while there ARE jerks on both sides of the religious spectrum, it would be a lie to say that either of them are equally credible. In fact, religious believers are technically atheists themselves so there is a certain level of hypocrisy in hating atheists.

And yes, I am an atheist.

Does that mean that you should no longer trust what I say? Aren't I the one being looked unfavorably upon because we simply don't agree on a matter of personal choice?

And who knows? Am I an atheist? Or am I a religious believer who sees hypocrisy in the religious community and simply want people to be more fair and ignore the stupidity on both sides?

You're free to ignore me but I think I've made my point so I'll just leave now as I'm sure I've upset many of you.



PhoenixKing said:
stof said:
The video definitely didn't seem serious or authentic with the gunshots and some of the lyrics, so I gave it a check. The song's creator said that it was a spoof. He's christian and it was at a christian event, but it was sort of a lighthearted, "we're christians that think the side hug thing is pretty silly" song. The event it was at does come down on public displays of affection though.

So yes, there's a Christian side hug, yes, it's ridiculous, but then again the Christians in this video agree with you.

But if you're bummed that your chance to rip on Christianity just evaporated... We can get back to the Pope's covering for child rapists!


Here we go, a religious believer acting like their religion has always been the victims again, all the time, and denying their religion has caused any negative impact in the world.

Typical methods to prevent themselves from understanding the clear points in the oppositions message.

I don't get what your saying. How are they acting like victims by making a funny rap spoof of a little known and lesser used practice by a handful of Christians (and really, even most Christians wouldn't know about the "side hug"). Christians are allowed to have a sense of humour you know. 

Unless your talking about me because you think I'm defending them AND being sarcastic about the pope statement. In that case, I wasn't being sarcastic, the Pope covered for child rapists. He should go to prison.



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Rath said:
Sqrl said:
Rath said:
pizzahut451 said:
Thatmax said:
pizzahut451 said:
when I see threads like this, I'm glad I identify myself as christian

Thats not as clever as you think it is...

well i wasnt trying to be ''clever'' or anything. im glad i am not in one of the most arrogant group of people in the world

Which group is this? The one that claims to know utterly the absolute meaning of the universe or the one that claims to be almost entirely ignorant?

@this sort of discussion in general,

I don't know why people get into this.

Both the devoutly religous and the devoutly non-religious have those among them who are arrogantly certain of their beliefs.  Neither has cornered the market on sanctimony or general douchebaggery.

All of which bares it self out every time two or more people get together to try and convince each other that one side or the other is really worse about it than the other.

The bottom line is neither side can be sure their right, and neither side is going to convince the other their wrong.  So really the only reasons left to have the discussion is if you just enjoy arguing about it or if you're interested in theology/philosophy.  I'm all for the later kind of discussion but I can't help but get the sense that this is not exactly where this is headed right now, ya know what I mean?

 

 

Agree entirely on all of this.

To be fair, I was pretty sure you did =P



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