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elticker said:
HappySqurriel said:
elticker said:
JGarret said:
Vectorferret said:
If they work really hard to prevent piracy it will take pirates 2 hours instead of 1 to break the system. (Sadly not much of an exaggeration.)


This...ok, this might be a bit of an exaggeration :P...I mean, it could take them a few days or weeks, heck even months...but they always find a way to crack these systems, people who think Nintendo and other companies will be able to stop piracy next gen are only fooling themselves.


Sony says hi :).

the ps3 hasnt been hacked and will not be hacked mark my words. I am not a sony fan but thats one of the best things that happened to the industry. the ps3 not being hackable has brought hope of a piracy free system and hopefully next generation microsoft and nintendo will have pirateproof system like sony.

The two factors that delayed the hacking were the Blu-Ray disc (few people have the bandwidth to download many 25GB games, the burners were expensive, and the discs were not cheap) and the PS3 was initially not popular enough to justify exerting much effort to hack it. If a system is complicated enough to hack and requires a hardware modification only a very small portion of the userbase will ever bother to hack it; and until the userbase grows to a level where you (as one of a dozen companies that will hack it) can sell hundreds of thousands of mod-chips there isn’t any incentive to hack it.

so it isnt popular now right with over a 30 mil install base right. That means it should be hacked this year if it isn't then your argument about not popular is reason is busted. and the bluray thing, bluray is cheap now so this shouldn't be a problem

I think you miss the point ...

People who crack a system do so for profit, and on day one when they see a system sell like the Wii or PS2 most teams throw all their resources towards hacking those systems because there is the greatest potential return from them. After a year these systems are typically hacked, and many of these companies continue focusing on these systems because there is a greater return from creating a simpler mod than in producing a mod for a lower selling system. The slower selling systems do have some effort put towards hacking them, but it is typically an order of magnitude less effort.

At some point in the generation, the potential return on investment from a new hack disappears and almost no effort is put into creating a new mod; because (after all) how many people are interested in modifying a system if the new one will be on the market in a few months.

 

Basically, as the Wii demonstrates the piracy protection on the Gamecube was probably not the reason it took 3 and a half years for the first mod-chips to arrive; and (while it is probably challenging to hack) the PS3 hasn’t seen a viable mod more because few teams have seen the financial benefit in putting the effort into hacking it.

Edit: and yes the fact that few people own a Blu-Ray burner (adding $100+ to the initial cost), Blu-Ray discs are still relatively expensive, and few people have the bandwidth to download a 25GB signed disc image has probably factored into the profitability calculation for most pirate groups



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Hacker tried and still try to hack the PS3. Some are making it for the money. But is also fame which drives them.

PS3 wont be hacked properly. And I am sure there will be once the point where its over forever. Hackers are not as good as people think. PS3 showed that the whole system has to be designed around security.

It has NOTHING do to with Bluray or the size of the Games. Absolutely nothing. At the moment the PS3 is the most lucrative target people all around the world want the PS3 to be hacked. Bluray Player and disc are not that expensive. Its like DVD Burner and Discs in the year 2000. Nothing extremly expensive. Hackers were even so confident to put Isos of PS3 games on torrent sites. Because they thought PS3 is hacked soon since all the famous hackers said we are going to hack it. And after 2 years they took PS3 ISOs of the Sites. Just read the Hackerblogs. And all hackers will say that PS3 is a beast of its own and probably cant be defeatet soon.


read what they say and you will realize they are not as powerful as you think they are. Geohot said to the security barriers of the Iphone that he had luck that Apple needed time to complete the security wall and that he had enough time to learn the security of the Iphone if they would have released it on the beginnig with full security he said his job would have been 1000 times more difficult. Wait for next gen you will see a dramatic decrease in piracy all over the world.


Its not that easy anymore and there is a point were you just have no chance if the Software and hardware are so close designed that you have no chance to put a foot in the door.

The more I read about PS3s security stuff the more I am stunned and sure there is no way if Companies do it right.


If the PS3 wont be opened in the next 5 years and will run unsigned code. Then Hackers all over the planet have lost against Sony. And we probably wont see a Sony console hacked in the future.