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Bamboleo said:
Cheebee said:
Ah... so you'll actually be able to easily switch off the 3D effect? That's interesting, and further backs up my belief that the system will be far more than just an upgraded DS with 3D capabilities. 'Cos if it was, and you'd turn off the 3D thing, you'd be left with something similar to the current DS, probably. And Nintendo wouldn't release something if it wasn't a serious step forward from the product that preceded it.

I'm fearing the very same thing my friend...

Hm, I think you misunderstand me, I'm not fearing this, I'm actually thinking 3DS will be far more than just an upgraded DS. We already know about some sort of force feedback via the touch screen, the beefed up graphical capabilities, and very likely some form of motion sensing, on top of the 3D feature. Then there are all the things that make the DS(i) unique, such as the dual cameras, the dual screens, the touch sensitivity, the WiFi and the built-in mic, plus DSiWare. So what I'm thinking is, even without the 3D, the 3DS will be worth the purchase and have features and capabilities that will set it firmly apart from its competitors and predecessors.



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kingofwale said:
I am willing to place a ban bet here that if 3DS were to release in Japan a few months first. It will be fully hacked before reaching US shore.

Of course it's cool to talk about the future console, but Nintendo is not taking a proactive rule in this. What about the Wii and DS? Why not have proactive firmware updates to deter CURRENT piracy issue?

as the current owner of both DS and Wii, I see too often that people around me are pirating and doing so openly and easily

On Wii they've been proactive enough. Killed Twilight Hack at least, though others still abound, but they beat the first and most prolific of them.



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Nintendo usually uses there own formats too don't they?



Ninten78 said:
Nintendo usually uses there own formats too don't they?

Yeah, and they actually patented some new sort of game cartridge a while ago. Presumably for 3DS. So who knows, that might play some role in preventing piracy...



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If they work really hard to prevent piracy it will take pirates 2 hours instead of 1 to break the system. (Sadly not much of an exaggeration.)



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Vectorferret said:
If they work really hard to prevent piracy it will take pirates 2 hours instead of 1 to break the system. (Sadly not much of an exaggeration.)


This...ok, this might be a bit of an exaggeration :P...I mean, it could take them a few days or weeks, heck even months...but they always find a way to crack these systems, people who think Nintendo and other companies will be able to stop piracy next gen are only fooling themselves.



I think a lot of you are overestimating the abilities of pirates, and don’t seem to understand what Nintendo (or any hardware manufacturer) desires to accomplish from piracy protection.

Within 6 months of a system being released and being popular enough pirates will probably have figured out a way to get backed-up games to play on a system. Typically, this involves significant hardware modification where there is significant risk of damaging your system. Generally speaking, console manufacturers don’t mind this because the number of people who’re willing to modify their system is small, and the number of people who are willing to pay a $150 premium to buy a system from a shady Chinese dealer to have it modified is even smaller.

The thing that console manufacturers worry about is the soft-mod, which has been surprisingly widespread this generation; with the Wii, XBox 360, PSP and Nintendo DS all being able to play back-ups with little/no significant hardware modifications. It is entirely possible to prevent these software mods through a greater focus on securing your operating system and paying attention to the obvious exploits.



JGarret said:
Vectorferret said:
If they work really hard to prevent piracy it will take pirates 2 hours instead of 1 to break the system. (Sadly not much of an exaggeration.)


This...ok, this might be a bit of an exaggeration :P...I mean, it could take them a few days or weeks, heck even months...but they always find a way to crack these systems, people who think Nintendo and other companies will be able to stop piracy next gen are only fooling themselves.


Sony says hi :).

the ps3 hasnt been hacked and will not be hacked mark my words. I am not a sony fan but thats one of the best things that happened to the industry. the ps3 not being hackable has brought hope of a piracy free system and hopefully next generation microsoft and nintendo will have pirateproof system like sony.



 

 

elticker said:
JGarret said:
Vectorferret said:
If they work really hard to prevent piracy it will take pirates 2 hours instead of 1 to break the system. (Sadly not much of an exaggeration.)


This...ok, this might be a bit of an exaggeration :P...I mean, it could take them a few days or weeks, heck even months...but they always find a way to crack these systems, people who think Nintendo and other companies will be able to stop piracy next gen are only fooling themselves.


Sony says hi :).

the ps3 hasnt been hacked and will not be hacked mark my words. I am not a sony fan but thats one of the best things that happened to the industry. the ps3 not being hackable has brought hope of a piracy free system and hopefully next generation microsoft and nintendo will have pirateproof system like sony.

The two factors that delayed the hacking were the Blu-Ray disc (few people have the bandwidth to download many 25GB games, the burners were expensive, and the discs were not cheap) and the PS3 was initially not popular enough to justify exerting much effort to hack it. If a system is complicated enough to hack and requires a hardware modification only a very small portion of the userbase will ever bother to hack it; and until the userbase grows to a level where you (as one of a dozen companies that will hack it) can sell hundreds of thousands of mod-chips there isn’t any incentive to hack it.



HappySqurriel said:
elticker said:
JGarret said:
Vectorferret said:
If they work really hard to prevent piracy it will take pirates 2 hours instead of 1 to break the system. (Sadly not much of an exaggeration.)


This...ok, this might be a bit of an exaggeration :P...I mean, it could take them a few days or weeks, heck even months...but they always find a way to crack these systems, people who think Nintendo and other companies will be able to stop piracy next gen are only fooling themselves.


Sony says hi :).

the ps3 hasnt been hacked and will not be hacked mark my words. I am not a sony fan but thats one of the best things that happened to the industry. the ps3 not being hackable has brought hope of a piracy free system and hopefully next generation microsoft and nintendo will have pirateproof system like sony.

The two factors that delayed the hacking were the Blu-Ray disc (few people have the bandwidth to download many 25GB games, the burners were expensive, and the discs were not cheap) and the PS3 was initially not popular enough to justify exerting much effort to hack it. If a system is complicated enough to hack and requires a hardware modification only a very small portion of the userbase will ever bother to hack it; and until the userbase grows to a level where you (as one of a dozen companies that will hack it) can sell hundreds of thousands of mod-chips there isn’t any incentive to hack it.

so it isnt popular now right with over a 30 mil install base right. That means it should be hacked this year if it isn't then your argument about not popular is reason is busted. and the bluray thing, bluray is cheap now so this shouldn't be a problem