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Typical thread from one of the usual suspects.

And you think Sony won't cut the PS3 price again? Of course they will, and don't bring up profit, I don't think Sony care about that as they have already cut 33% of the PS3 in the first year.

Sony won't let MS get that much price advantage...



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@ Nintendo_Fanboy (aptly titled)

Cause the gamecube mario, and mario kart were not better than their predecessors. Actually, throw Windwaker in that list too.

MGS4 will be better than previous installments.



People continue to overestimate the importance of MGS4, and underestimate the importance of GT5.

Look at software sales for MGS3/GT4. Look at hardware sales for the times those games were released. MGS3 gave no noticable bump in hardware sales, and sold 4 million copies; compare that to GT4's consisten 10m+, and the Metal Gear franchise isn't nearly as close in terms of significance.

Metal Gear is a franchise that's really, really big with otaku/internet crowd, and this gives the impression that everyone else cares about it just as much, but they don't. Compare this to something like Halo or Grand Theft Auto or Gran Turismo, which are games that actually do have significant effect outside the super enthusiast gamer crowd. 

Please note that I'm not saying the Playstation 3 doesn't have good games next year; it absolutely does, I think it has the best lineup of system sellers next year. I'm just pointing out that a lot of people don't know which games are the biggest and which are still big, but not quite as big. Pin your hopes on Gran Turismo, not Metal Gear, in my opinion.  



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The PS3 already has a great list of games in 2008 I'm looking forward to so I can't see 2008 being a bad year.

A lot of the early complaints like a poor game library compared to the 360, high cost, and hard to develop for are slowly falling by the wayside as more games come, price cuts happen, and developers become more familiar with the architecture.

Expect good things from 2008.



@Bodhesatva

I totaly agree

on EVERy thread i have said why is EVERYONE ignoreing the PLASYSTATIONS BIGGEST SELLINg franchise since it began

GRAN TURISMO!

Gran Turismo, Final fantasy

are the BIGGEST BIGGEST ones.....

MGS4 will probably be the best game of them though....

& Killzone 2 is being SO overrated...



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-Increased popularity of Blu-ray

-Price cuts, given move to 45nm
-better games expected in 2008

-Expected movie download service which will be all gravy for sony b/c they are a movie company and potentially won't have to pay anybody a dime to sell movies from the PS3
-Expected Tivo-like service

So, I'm not worried about the PS3 at all given these things that we hope/expect from the PS3 next year =)



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

routsounmanman said:
Doubt it; 2007 is the toughest year for the PS3 and lately, doesn't seem THAT bad!

 Doesn't mean it wont go downhill, which it will. Sony will have a hard time trying to keep up with the Wii and 360. They have to work harder in order to try and close the gap. Things will be far from easy.



Bodhesatva said:

People continue to overestimate the importance of MGS4, and underestimate the importance of GT5.

Look at software sales for MGS3/GT4. Look at hardware sales for the times those games were released. MGS3 gave no noticable bump in hardware sales, and sold 4 million copies; compare that to GT4's consisten 10m+, and the Metal Gear franchise isn't nearly as close in terms of significance.

Metal Gear is a franchise that's really, really big with otaku/internet crowd, and this gives the impression that everyone else cares about it just as much, but they don't. Compare this to something like Halo or Grand Theft Auto or Gran Turismo, which are games that actually do have significant effect outside the super enthusiast gamer crowd. 

Please note that I'm not saying the Playstation 3 doesn't have good games next year; it absolutely does, I think it has the best lineup of system sellers next year. I'm just pointing out that a lot of people don't know which games are the biggest and which are still big, but not quite as big. Pin your hopes on Gran Turismo, not Metal Gear, in my opinion.  


I am banking my hopes a lot on Final Fantasy XIII moving the most hardware, especially in Japan. Gran Turismo 5 will do VERY well in Japan and Europe for hardware but I am not sure about FFXIII or GT5's hardware penetration in the US.



2008 will be a great year for the PS3. Its the year where the REAL battle between the 360/PS3 will be fought - and we'll find out (almost certainly) whether the PS3 will overtake the 360 in the long term.

Great games + additional price cut(s) = Win for Sony!

(its also the year where Ninty puts daylight between it and all competitors...)



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