That.  You can remove the 'still' from my inital sentence if you want.

Samuel, that would be minority government, in 2005 Labour successfully achieved their majority with a 32 seats surplus.  The Tories have not done this, they are don't want electoral reform, therefore cannot expect a minority government to be met with open arms.

Ah, I see.

I'm arguing that mandate, really, should come from the popular vote. How can people (namely, Labour supporters) be arguing that the Conservatives don't have the support of the people to form a Government, when Labour formed a Government last election with even fewer people supporting them.

Yes, I understand that its constitutional for the party with the most to have the legal mandate to form a Government. But, if there's one thing that's become abhorrently clear in recent years is that our political system, including our constitution, is terribly dated. Hence why constitutional reform has played a major role in all parties' manifestos.

SeriousWB, what are you saying would be a minority government?

Con-Lib would have more than 50% of the seats.
Lab-Lib would have not.
Conservatives alone would not.

I completely agree about electoral reform being needed, but the Conservatives are not in favour of such reform.  I really don't believe the tories are exactly enthusiastic at the proposals, and it did not seem like a major role in their manifesto.   In the next few days we'll see how the tories really feel about it as a result of the talks with Clegg.  That's hoping Clegg doesn't back down for the price of some cabinet seats.  Edit: For example the Lib Dems have put forward the law for the public the right to sack their MPs if corrupt, labour voted against it, tories didn't voting.  It's only now at election time they are saying things because t that's what the public wants to hear.  Actions speak louder than words.

Labour have just started harping on about it because now it could strengthen their weaker position.  if they actually gave a damn they could have done something in the 13 years they were in control.

@Soleron, Conservatives, responding to the lower paragraph of Samuel's post.

People are right the Labour Party could have reformed Parliament earlier, though we should note that it IS in their manifesto this time and that they have reformed the House of Lords already. I don't support the party in theory, but in this stupid electoral system I voted for them in order to keep the Tory Party from winning a majority. I know we need a whole new way of doing politics, a lot more openness and intelligent discussion rather than feeble PR and soundbites that we have at the moment.

No-one is the legitimate government and any deal between any group is equally valid. This has been the same for the last 70 years. Not one single valid majority. Every government has been a minority government because no-one has ever gotten 50% of the vote!!

Here's some very short stories I wrote...

http://www.spacemag.org/world/latest-news/372-nobody-to-lead-new-government

http://www.spacemag.org/world/latest-news/374-queen-snatches-power-in-coup-detat

http://www.spacemag.org/world/latest-news/373-david-dimbleby-destroyed-by-epic-coverage

Here's a silly idea. What if they agree to the house of lords being elected AND it being proportionally elected.

While keeping the rest of parliment the same.  Might give a nice balance.

That statement does not make ANY sense. Lib dems got 6 mill votes. Labour got 8 mill. Conservaties got 10 mill. YET, LD got LESS than a quarter of the conservative seat count. How is that fair? How is that not good for the people, when LD get almost 2/3 of conservative, and almost 3/4 of labour votes, but are stuck with less than a quarter of the seats. Of course its for the LD, they are not being represente well, even though they got so many votes. Proportional representation is what they want, and its best for everyone.

Also, the house of lords needs to be elected fairly. Just because they are  posh toffs with titles doesn't mean they should  get a say. It's unfair.

BNP, Green, UKIP and a few other extreme parties are laughing and preparing to celebrate the fact that its going to be a hung parliament. There is no such thing as a fair system, there is always going to be people complaining.

The Liberal Democrats will be the first to hypocritically complain when BNP get 15 seats and Green get 5 seats...

That sounds a lot like the American system (two houses, two different methods). It would mean no single election could radically change the balance of power in the Houses.

But how would the Government be formed? Majority in the Commons? Both houses? Presidential system?