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Slimebeast on 02 May 2010
Kynes said:
xiphias666 said:
The new price for the X360 in spain in dollars will be; $224 for the arcade and $264 for the elite 120gb and one game. In the end, the elite is the only one whit a true reduce price.

Take out the sales tax, and you get 193$ for the arcade and 227$ for the elite with one game, now. In July the sales tax goes from 16% to 18%, so it's 189$ for the arcade and 223$ for the elite with one game.

 

And yes, our unemployment rate is a 20%, we've got from 8% to 20% in two and a half years. That's what you get with a socialist government.

Nice jab there lol. I agree with you but don't forget the world financial crysis lol.

Is it really 20% in Spain?



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eliasg on 02 May 2010

Here in Greece the major retailers PLAISIO has arcade (BANJO + FORZA3 + PURE + LEGO BATMAN + HALO3 ODST + 20 GB HDD ) at 199 EURO...

http://www.plaisio.gr/Gaming/Consoles/Microsoft-XBOX-360/Microsoft-XBOX360-nd-Lego-Batman-nd-Pure-nd-Halo-3-and-Motorsport-3-nd-20GB-HD.htm



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Kynes on 02 May 2010
Slimebeast said:
Kynes said:
xiphias666 said:
The new price for the X360 in spain in dollars will be; $224 for the arcade and $264 for the elite 120gb and one game. In the end, the elite is the only one whit a true reduce price.

Take out the sales tax, and you get 193$ for the arcade and 227$ for the elite with one game, now. In July the sales tax goes from 16% to 18%, so it's 189$ for the arcade and 223$ for the elite with one game.

 

And yes, our unemployment rate is a 20%, we've got from 8% to 20% in two and a half years. That's what you get with a socialist government.

Nice jab there lol. I agree with you but don't forget the world financial crysis lol.

Is it really 20% in Spain?

 

I live in Andalucia, southern Spain, where we have an unemployment rate of 27.21%.



Slimebeast on 02 May 2010

Kynes that's sad. Maybe you can get that Aznar guy back. I liked him.



fighter on 02 May 2010
Slimebeast said:
Kynes said:
xiphias666 said:
The new price for the X360 in spain in dollars will be; $224 for the arcade and $264 for the elite 120gb and one game. In the end, the elite is the only one whit a true reduce price.

Take out the sales tax, and you get 193$ for the arcade and 227$ for the elite with one game, now. In July the sales tax goes from 16% to 18%, so it's 189$ for the arcade and 223$ for the elite with one game.

 

And yes, our unemployment rate is a 20%, we've got from 8% to 20% in two and a half years. That's what you get with a socialist government.

Nice jab there lol. I agree with you but don't forget the world financial crysis lol.

Is it really 20% in Spain?

 

Kynes has no idea what he is talking about. It was under Aznar's government that senseless credit spending was encouraged (Bush had the same approach by the way) If there's any system that should be blamed it's growth through debt.

 

And by the way i'm a liberal. I want the smallest government possible, so i'm not pro-Aznar nor pro Zapatero.



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fighter on 02 May 2010
kowenicki said:
Unemployment in Spain is expected to reach 25% plus by year end...

Unreal.

But hey... the Euro and EU common fiscal policy works.... doesn't it? My arse!!

 

 

 

It works if you respect the common sense rules the way Germany did. Also, it was when adapting itself to the standards of the euro-zone that the unemployment rate dropped to 8%. It was already at 20% beginning of the 90's.

 

The european countries that got really hurt by the crisis are the stupid ones. Their policy was growth through consumption (debt) instead of production. That only works on a short term if the import-export balance is favourable, but in the end it reduces any economy's efficiency



elzabbul on 02 May 2010

Sorry for you guys but I was expecting this once you elected socialists. We (the Polish) ran to same thing around ~2003 but then more right-wing parties started to won and now we're balancing with 9-11% of unemployement. It's an interesting comparison because both our countries have similar population & size.

Also I went once to Spain for two weeks in August and it was really nice :) Only a bit too hot and too many german kids with alcohol.

 



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fighter on 02 May 2010
kowenicki said:
fighter said:
kowenicki said:
Unemployment in Spain is expected to reach 25% plus by year end...

Unreal.

But hey... the Euro and EU common fiscal policy works.... doesn't it? My arse!!

 

 

 

It works if you respect the common sense rules the way Germany did. Also, it was when adapting itself to the standards of the euro-zone that the unemployment rate dropped to 8%. It was already at 20% beginning of the 90's.

 

The european countries that got really hurt by the crisis are the stupid ones. Their policy was growth through consumption (debt) instead of production. That only works on a short term if the import-export balance is favourable, but in the end it reduces any economy's efficiency

If you throw money (EU subsidies) at a developing economy (Portugal Spain, Greece, Ireland) then provide the illusion of a steady single currency and (worse) a steady single interest rate then of course they are going to invest and spend like crazy on infra structure...

All it takes is an economic down turn to mess things up

And so it has panned out.

The EU has re-enforced the illusion (as does the UK government now) that government = the ecomony... the public sector is NEVER the economy.

 

 

Euro's exchange rate and ECB's interest rates are fluctuant btw. But i get what you mean.

On the other hand, the euro-zone is now the biggest market in the world and by internalizing competition within its' frontiers it won't suffer as much from foreign aleas. Just look at Japan. That country is going nowhere without a trans-national partnership. They work their asses off but don't have enough land to be self-sufficient. China could soon crush them just by increasng its' tax rates and/or prices.

The european natural framework is now to develop industry in the east while the west consolidates excellence in both services and finance (there is no way western europeans will go back to the factory, not at the current prices) Our only weak point are oil and gas.

That framework is similar to how a nation integrates its' different regions in a complementary way. There will always be waste here and there but in the end it's pure win.

 



fighter on 02 May 2010
elzabbul said:
Sorry for you guys but I was expecting this once you elected socialists. We ran to same thing around ~2003 but then more right-wing parties started to won and now we're balancing with 9-11% of unemployement. It's an interesting comparison because both our countries have similar population & size.

Also I went once to Spain for two weeks in August and it was really nice :) Only a bit too hot and too many german kids with alcohol.

 

 

Just look at Greece, Iceland and the US, the three main examples of crushed economies. All three conservative-lead until they hit the wall.

 

Ideology is simply not the pattern here, lol.



Vertigo-X on 02 May 2010
fighter said:
elzabbul said:
Sorry for you guys but I was expecting this once you elected socialists. We ran to same thing around ~2003 but then more right-wing parties started to won and now we're balancing with 9-11% of unemployement. It's an interesting comparison because both our countries have similar population & size.

Also I went once to Spain for two weeks in August and it was really nice :) Only a bit too hot and too many german kids with alcohol.

 

 

Just look at Greece, Iceland and the US, the three main examples of crushed economies. All three conservative-lead until they hit the wall.

 

Ideology is simply not the pattern here, lol.

I don't know about Greece and Iceland, but in the US Republicans do not equate to conservatives. Not any more, at least.



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