dunno001 said:
pizzahut451 said:
dunno001 said:
*sighs* I hadn't planned on coming back to reply to this thread, but your ignorance is really starting to piss me off. So I'll just go in paragraph order as to not need to use colors:
1. Was said child really brought back for the same reason? If this were the problem, why was the child even allowed to leave the orphanage? I think there was a different reason underneath, one you know, yet are deciding to obscure, as it goes counter to your point.i dont know the specific details. all i know it was brought back
2. Well, anti-gay is something that describes you quite well on this stance. It means that you do not think that gay people should have the same rights as everyone else. By saying that a gay couple can't adopt for that reason, it shows a hatred, a bigotry, toward them for no valid reasonoh, so i think gays shouldnt be allowed to adopt children and i am anit gay right away??? if you cant accept people's opinnions than dont go on forums. And you keep spewing the same crap about how a child needs a male AND a female parent. As things stand, right now, that is only true for biological bringing into existance. What if the father dies while the mother is pregnant, and is raised with only a mother?the child would still miss a father dont you think??? Or say the mother dies giving birth, to be raised by only a father. According to you, these are also just as big of problems.yes they are both big problmes but they are diffrent I guess, to put it in a way you might understand, the child is being raised with one "parent" and another adult in the household which just also happens to have the same equipment as the first "parent." If this is wrong, then what do you propose we do about all the children in single-parent homes, since that must be wrong too?
3. The protests in Russia are nothing, really- it's a step that many civilized countries go through in approaching acceptance. And everything else you're painting with a very broad brush, to again, try to hide inaccuracies that disprove your theoryi used the word ''protest'' because i didnt want to look like hater or something like that. things that happen on gay pride parades in russia are MUCH WORSE than protest. go llok it up on youtube.. Africa? Gay couples have plenty of rights in South Africa.and the rest of the Africa? yes the situation is a bit diffrent there. especially in north-easter africa South America? I think we have a few members here who can talk better about that than I, but there are quite a few areas where people won't bat an eye at you for being gay. ''a few areas'' being the key word here. And wha about Middle East??? Cant counter anything here, can you?? No, gays are not accepted everywhere, and as long as people like you remain, we never will be. Going back to Russia, those gay parades are an attempt to show that yes, we are normal people, not deserving such discrimination and hatred.please explain me how am i hating on any people here??? ITS MY FUCKING OPINNION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4. Obvious? Too many things skew what a person sees as "obvious." To an atheist, it is "obvious" there is no god. Whereas to a Christian, it's "obvious" that Jesus died for our sins. But these contradict each other; how can they be "obvious"? From my view, what you say isn't obvious at all, it's, as has been stated by others, hate mongering. If it's so "obvious", you should be able to be able to give factual proof of why. Yet all you're giving us is the same spewed crap with no basis in reality. I knew children of gay parents when I was in school, and I had no problem with this. (Before you try to bring up my current situation, I did not know about myself at the time.so? what diffrence does that make? you were still gay from very beginning. gay people dont mind gay parents) And there are some schools where the word "gay"fag/(fixed that for you) is slung around like an insult, but if you really are, people aren't bothered by it, and in fact, some even stop using it as such.
Then you go into deaths. There are some gay teens who commit suicide from the stigmata in less-civilized areas of being gay.America is that country? But with the exception of a couple of asinine countries, being a child with gay parents means nothing. These children are not discriminated against, even in the areas that you cite. After all, if an area is that unaccepting, suffice it to say that the parents also know this, and may actually try to help shield their child from the hatred. Are they concerned the child might get bullied, like you say happens? They might choose to have only 1 parent go to school to deal with the kid. And this again, brings us back to your flawed assumption that a child needs a parent of each gender...
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You know what,dunno001? I dont like the publicity im getting in this thread, so we're gonna have to agree to disagree, because im not argueing on this topic anymore.You think gays should be allowed to adopt, i think otherwise.the end
My opinnion is in a BIG MAJORITY anyways, and thats all that matters to me...
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Continuing the paragraph bulletpoints, since it seems to work:
1. If you don't know the specific details, then don't make them up. This includes trying to pass it off as homosexuality as being the reason.
2a. If you think any group should not have completely equal rights to everyone else, then yes, you are anti that group. It doesn't matter what that group is. As for people's opinions, I can deal with them. What I will do, is dispute them, and determine why you think that. Of course, it seems as though you're not willing to dispute, rather, you're using what you think of as a majority and saying it must be right. And I think the forum members here can find quite a few cases of that being wrong.
2b/c. No, it's not really different. It's a case of 1 parent being there, versus 2 caring adults both acting the role of parent. And as for missing one's father (I find it interesting how you only single out the father, by the way.), I can give exhibit A of that not being true- myself. My father left the scene when I was 6, and all I remember about him was the empty promises. Can't say I miss it one bit.
3a/b. What I was trying to say is that a few cases do not an entire area make. If the NRA had their way, they'd have people believe that the USA is a land of gun-toting violent nutcases. Does it matter if I can't make an example of one area you mention? Nope, rather, I was pointing to the wide swaths you incorrectly paint on an entire area. Even if most of the area would be that way, it does not mean that you can assume everyone is.
3c. I actually was talking in general, not about you specifically. So apparently I can't take an opinion, but everything I say has to be about you?
4. I'll be damned, you paid attention to something else I said. But what I was saying is that gay parents don't make a difference. As for your "correction", you're trying to correct a school bus driver on things kids say. I've heard both used; it doesn't make "gay" wrong as a word that some still use as an insult. (I still wish it wouldn't be, but that's another topic.)
5. I never said entire countries, I said areas. There are areas in the USA (since America is a region anyway...) that I think are uncouth. But again, it comes down to painting with the right brush for the people. I know that not everyone in the USA thinks the same way; I acknowledge this. So I have to say some, and state also that it is not indicitive of everyone in that area.
6/7. Yeah, I think we are going to have to disagree. So do both of us a favor- stop trying to pass your thoughts off as fact. It is that angle from which I defend against, as evidenced by what you had to end with, rather than letting it be just about what you think. However...
pizzahut451 said later to SciFiBoy:
I dont think they should be able to adopt children because i am dirty homophobic son of a bitch |
I think I've found something we can both agree on.
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