By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Gaming - Will 3d on consoles take off or will it be a gimmick?

Millennium on 28 April 2010

It'll be a gimmick, but so is HD and that isn't going anywhere. If TVs support it, the consoles will follow.



Complexity is not depth. Machismo is not maturity. Obsession is not dedication. Tedium is not challenge. Support gaming: support the Wii.

Be the ultimate ninja! Play Billy Vs. SNAKEMAN today! Poisson Village welcomes new players.

What do I hate about modern gaming? I hate tedium replacing challenge, complexity replacing depth, and domination replacing entertainment. I hate the outsourcing of mechanics to physics textbooks, art direction to photocopiers, and story to cheap Hollywood screenwriters. I hate the confusion of obsession with dedication, style with substance, new with gimmicky, old with obsolete, new with evolutionary, and old with time-tested.
There is much to hate about modern gaming. That is why I support the Wii.

Around the Network
Squilliam on 28 April 2010
disolitude said:

IZ3D does give free drivers to anyone with an ATI card but I never tried their drivers cause I dont have a polarized display. I heard its pretty great...

You can get 3D working with Tridef drivers on an ATI card quite easily. I had a 4850 a year or so ago and first tried things out with Tridef...you just have to go get the trial off their website, you install it and done. That driver is pretty versitile however it isn't as good with updates as Nvidias so it takes longer to get profiles for new games. Another fault it has is that you need to get the stupid 3rd party glasses (they dont make em and samsung discontinued the DLP ones by the time I bought mine).

Honestly, if Tridef or IZ3D came out with an equal or better 3D solution as Nvidia, id gladly recycle all my Nvidia stuff and go over to ATI side :)

Nvidia is too used to their customers paying top notch dollar for their product and then having to jump through hoops just to get it working...

You can't easily buy a polarised display can you? So whilst the technology of present 3D TVs and monitors are relying on shutter glasses it isn't as relevant. However its probably likely that polarised technology will be more compatible with consumer interest given the technology is more practical from an interface perspective when you have cheap 3D glasses vs expensive shutter tech which require batteries and are heavy.

What do you think? Polarised or Shutter for the near term 3-5 year mainstream 3D technology?



Tease.

Chrizum on 28 April 2010

Since Nintendo didn't pioneer it, it's not a gimmick at all.



hollywood85 on 28 April 2010

Ps3 fanboys: it will take off

360 fanboys: gimmik

just explained the next 50 pages of this thread

personally, it will be as big as the ps3's launch....... next gen however



scottie on 28 April 2010

No-one has 3d tvs

Most people I know dont care while it still needs glasses (sorry for anecdotal evidence)

Most developers will not care. In order to free up processing power required to double a game's framerate (so that when 3d halves it it returns to normal) devs will either have to tone down the graphics, or put a whole bunch more time into optimising

 

Edit - the above is comments for this generation. Obviously my first two points dont apply to the 3ds, and the 3rd might or might not. If it is fairly powerful, yet easy to program for then devs might jump on it



Around the Network
pacman91 on 28 April 2010

Consoles-flounder
portable-boom



disolitude on 28 April 2010
Squilliam said:
disolitude said:

IZ3D does give free drivers to anyone with an ATI card but I never tried their drivers cause I dont have a polarized display. I heard its pretty great...

You can get 3D working with Tridef drivers on an ATI card quite easily. I had a 4850 a year or so ago and first tried things out with Tridef...you just have to go get the trial off their website, you install it and done. That driver is pretty versitile however it isn't as good with updates as Nvidias so it takes longer to get profiles for new games. Another fault it has is that you need to get the stupid 3rd party glasses (they dont make em and samsung discontinued the DLP ones by the time I bought mine).

Honestly, if Tridef or IZ3D came out with an equal or better 3D solution as Nvidia, id gladly recycle all my Nvidia stuff and go over to ATI side :)

Nvidia is too used to their customers paying top notch dollar for their product and then having to jump through hoops just to get it working...

You can't easily buy a polarised display can you? So whilst the technology of present 3D TVs and monitors are relying on shutter glasses it isn't as relevant. However its probably likely that polarised technology will be more compatible with consumer interest given the technology is more practical from an interface perspective when you have cheap 3D glasses vs expensive shutter tech which require batteries and are heavy.

What do you think? Polarised or Shutter for the near term 3-5 year mainstream 3D technology?


To be honest, 3D Vision glasses are not too heavy at all and they have a built in battery. But they do cost 200 bucks. Looking towards the future I think that shutter glasses will have more 3D marketshare in homes, while polarized ones will always be used almost exclusively in movie theaters.

Only LG has announced to be doing polarized displays so far...and I doubt another HD DVD vs Bluray war is about to break out over what 3D format broadcasts, games and movies are going to use.



Squilliam on 30 April 2010
disolitude said:
Squilliam said:

You can't easily buy a polarised display can you? So whilst the technology of present 3D TVs and monitors are relying on shutter glasses it isn't as relevant. However its probably likely that polarised technology will be more compatible with consumer interest given the technology is more practical from an interface perspective when you have cheap 3D glasses vs expensive shutter tech which require batteries and are heavy.

What do you think? Polarised or Shutter for the near term 3-5 year mainstream 3D technology?


To be honest, 3D Vision glasses are not too heavy at all and they have a built in battery. But they do cost 200 bucks. Looking towards the future I think that shutter glasses will have more 3D marketshare in homes, while polarized ones will always be used almost exclusively in movie theaters.

Only LG has announced to be doing polarized displays so far...and I doubt another HD DVD vs Bluray war is about to break out over what 3D format broadcasts, games and movies are going to use.

The major issue with them is synchronisation and the time it takes for the shutters to open/close + how long it takes to display the image. This seriously limits the quantity of light which transmits through them. This is the reason why they recommend such high frame-rates for 3D enabled games on the PC.

I personally don't see how they both couldn't be supported at the same time for movies games and broadcast.



Tease.

Orca_Azure on 30 April 2010

I assume they are just wetting their feet with the technology like nintendo did with the power glove. back in the day people said motion in video games could never happen- now all 3 big systems are going for it. I do believe that 3d games will not become mainstream for years to come though- we need 3dtvs and those are less common than hdtvs