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TWRoO on 29 April 2010
Vetteman94 said:
TWRoO said:
Vetteman94 said:
TWRoO said:
Vetteman94 said:
Well I have always had good luck with Linksys routers, you should look into one of them.

Hell if you lived close to me you could have my old Wireless N Gigabit router since I just replaced it with a new one.

Wireless N?

If you have an old one it won't have been ratified 802.11n (assuming you don't replace your ISR every year anyway)... which means it can have problems with other tech, (though if you have had a Wii and PSP working on it then I would guess no problem)

 

However, I am not sure the Wii supports wirless-n, same for the PSP (I would guess newer versions like the Go do, but doubt the older ones will) which means whenever they are connected to the router it will be performing at wireless-g levels anyway. So assuming the OP wants to used the Connect 24 feature an "n" router is not worth it.

Old as in not my new one,  yes it is a couple years old but I assure you it is 802.11n compatible.   The only console that supports wireless N is the 360, and that because of the new adapter that recently released.   Its also a Gigabit router,  which the PS3 will take advantage of.  

What? If the PS3 doesn't support 802.11n then it doesn't gain an advantage.

there is no such thing as a gigabit router without it being 802.11n. So if the PS3 doesn't support n it won't get an advantage from using n.... And as I said, if you use an 802.11g device on an n network the entire network is back to wireless-g speed anyway..... wireless-n is pointless until all the connected devices support it.

And a 2 year old wireless n router will have been draft n, which as long as it works for the devices you use it for is fine, but a new one is better trusted.

Being a gigabit router refers to the wired ports, which is how his PS3 is hooked up.  It has nothing to do with a wireless signal.  

@ bolded

That is incorrect,  wireless N is backwards compatible with all other signals.  Any device hooked upto it will only be limited by the wireless adapter in that device, not the other devices on the same network. 

Ah, wired yes, ok.

And I haven't used n myself so perhaps you are right, (perhaps I misunderstood my tutor) but I was just taught that very thing about a month ago. Yes it's backward compatible, but if it has to communicate with a g device it has to do the same with other g devices using the same channel (I believe you can buy some that use multiple channels at once though)

 



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Vetteman94 on 29 April 2010
TWRoO said:
Vetteman94 said:
TWRoO said:
Vetteman94 said:
TWRoO said:
Vetteman94 said:
Well I have always had good luck with Linksys routers, you should look into one of them.

Hell if you lived close to me you could have my old Wireless N Gigabit router since I just replaced it with a new one.

Wireless N?

If you have an old one it won't have been ratified 802.11n (assuming you don't replace your ISR every year anyway)... which means it can have problems with other tech, (though if you have had a Wii and PSP working on it then I would guess no problem)

 

However, I am not sure the Wii supports wirless-n, same for the PSP (I would guess newer versions like the Go do, but doubt the older ones will) which means whenever they are connected to the router it will be performing at wireless-g levels anyway. So assuming the OP wants to used the Connect 24 feature an "n" router is not worth it.

Old as in not my new one,  yes it is a couple years old but I assure you it is 802.11n compatible.   The only console that supports wireless N is the 360, and that because of the new adapter that recently released.   Its also a Gigabit router,  which the PS3 will take advantage of.  

What? If the PS3 doesn't support 802.11n then it doesn't gain an advantage.

there is no such thing as a gigabit router without it being 802.11n. So if the PS3 doesn't support n it won't get an advantage from using n.... And as I said, if you use an 802.11g device on an n network the entire network is back to wireless-g speed anyway..... wireless-n is pointless until all the connected devices support it.

And a 2 year old wireless n router will have been draft n, which as long as it works for the devices you use it for is fine, but a new one is better trusted.

Being a gigabit router refers to the wired ports, which is how his PS3 is hooked up.  It has nothing to do with a wireless signal.  

@ bolded

That is incorrect,  wireless N is backwards compatible with all other signals.  Any device hooked upto it will only be limited by the wireless adapter in that device, not the other devices on the same network. 

Ah, wired yes, ok.

And I haven't used n myself so perhaps you are right, (perhaps I misunderstood my tutor) but I was just taught that very thing about a month ago. Yes it's backward compatible, but if it has to communicate with a g device it has to do the same with other g devices using the same channel (I believe you can buy some that use multiple channels at once though)

 

Yes that is correct,  all N routers support MIMO (multiple in/multiple out) for this reason.



1337 Gamer on 29 April 2010

Im currently running a dual band Wireless Netgear N Gigabit router and im having no problems with it a year later. I have always had good luck with netgear.



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TWRoO on 29 April 2010
Vetteman94 said:
TWRoO said:
Vetteman94 said:

Being a gigabit router refers to the wired ports, which is how his PS3 is hooked up.  It has nothing to do with a wireless signal.  

@ bolded

That is incorrect,  wireless N is backwards compatible with all other signals.  Any device hooked upto it will only be limited by the wireless adapter in that device, not the other devices on the same network. 

Ah, wired yes, ok.

And I haven't used n myself so perhaps you are right, (perhaps I misunderstood my tutor) but I was just taught that very thing about a month ago. Yes it's backward compatible, but if it has to communicate with a g device it has to do the same with other g devices using the same channel (I believe you can buy some that use multiple channels at once though)

 

Yes that is correct,  all N routers support MIMO (multiple in/multiple out) for this reason.

No, I don't think you are right about this

I have been looking it up again, and if you can have a dual band wireless access point... ie running in both 5GHz and 2.4GHz... then yes you can have wireless-n devices with a throughput that is unaffected by connecting wireless-g devices. However, if a wireless-g device is connected it will slow down the 2.4GHz band to wireless-g throughput (and same for wireless-a on the 5Ghz band, but I doubt any home users have wireless-a)
http://www.comnews.com/WhitePaper_Library/Wireless/pdfs/Network_Impact_Of_802.11n.pdf

But the router you gave a link to doesn't have a 5GHz band according to this: http://homestore.cisco.com/en-us/products/linksys-eseries-compare_stcVVcatId552048VVviewcat.htm

Which means it only runs in 2.4GHz band, the same as g devices.... and if a g device is connected it slows everything down.

The MIMO technology is not the same thing as being able to transmit/recieve in both bands at once (Well MIMO allows it, but dual band is basically the same as having an "a" and "g" transmitter at the same time). MIMO is used within a single band for a better reliability and signal coverage: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps5678/ps6973/ps8382/prod_white_paper0900aecd806b8ce7_ns767_Networking_Solutions_White_Paper.html

 

Feel free to prove me wrong of course, I am only learning this myself recently, but I need some kind of proof, and it's hard to find (If I understand correctly the whitepapers I just linked to though, then I think I am correct)