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Lightning_24 on 26 April 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:

i just searched,and yes Sony is still not branding it as a Slim.They have said it is a sim but not selling it as a slim.they are selling as PS3 120gb and PS3 250gb.Didn't know that.PS2 slim is selling as PS2 SLIM but are PS2's boxes say slim?My box is in storage so can't check it out.

 

Anyways i was expecting PS3 SLIM in 2012 with power brick out.

 

I Think PS3 will only have a price cut this year if 360 has one and has a big impact with it,and 360 arcade will probably have one  to $149.If it doesn't do much then PS3 price cut won't happen.IF it has Impact PS3 will price Move bundle at $299 which will make $30 loss at most and reduce PS3 standloe to $249 to compete.

I went and watched the reveal of the new PS3 and he never called it a slim but new design. He did connect it to PS2 slim but he didn't say and here is the PS3 slim. He continued to call it "design." So yeah they may have said the slimmer PS3 but I don't know if Sony has really branded it the Slim PS3.



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haxxiy on 26 April 2010

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Solid_Snake4RD on 26 April 2010
Chris Hu said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Lightning_24 said:

One thing people keep saying is the PS3 slim. Well the thing is, Sony has not called the PS3 out now a Slim, the box doesn't even say Slim. Because of this Sony can still launch a slim line, though I'm sure people, you know who you are, will complain about it.

Also I don't understand why someone in this thread thinks the PS3 will go up in price and the 360 will go down in price when move and natal comes out. The fact Sony has a new RSX is probably so they can keep the PS3 at 300 with move+eye and all that stuff for that price. I don't think Sony will have a price drop but they will keep everything at the price now, and we know the price now is working with how well the PS3 is selling.

Another thing is I don't understand why people are calling it a slim 360 when all they are doing, as well, is shrinking the intrenal stuff, most likely the 360 will look the same, stay at the same price and bundle natal with it so they can make a huge profit. I mean it's MS, they want a big profit I'm sure, just like the others want.

I could even say since Sony is making this new RSX available, that this E3 will be the release of the real Slim PS3 and it will be bundled with the move, pseye, and DS3, for just 250. See I can make thinks up too.

i just searched,and yes Sony is still not branding it as a Slim.They have said it is a sim but not selling it as a slim.they are selling as PS3 120gb and PS3 250gb.Didn't know that.PS2 slim is selling as PS2 SLIM but are PS2's boxes say slim?My box is in storage so can't check it out.

 

Anyways i was expecting PS3 SLIM in 2012 with power brick out.

 

I Think PS3 will only have a price cut this year if 360 has one and has a big impact with it,and 360 arcade will probably have one  to $149.If it doesn't do much then PS3 price cut won't happen.IF it has Impact PS3 will price Move bundle at $299 which will make $30 loss at most and reduce PS3 standloe to $249 to compete.

I also expect another PS3 slim down once they move towards 22nm chip sets which should first see the light of day sometime in 2011 so another slimer PS3 with small power brick by 2012 is highly possible I hope they keep the slot drive top loading like the PS2 slim would be silly.  I don't think they will sell that model as a slim either they already changed the lettering and logo once and I don't think they will do it another time.

yeah,i love the slot loader and yeah 22nm is possible straight and i think Toshiba will do that and RSX by 2012.Aony didn't want the 32nm thing.

 

They won't change the lettering and log,that was just done with PS3 cause PS3's maket image wasn't good at that time.They will just follow like they did with PS1 and PS2.

 

Lightning_24 was saying they will sell it as a SLIM cause PS2 is being sold as PS2 SLIM and they have that written on their boxes and also online they are selling it as PS2 slim but they are selling PS3 still as PS3 120GB AND PS3 250GB and not as PS3 SLIM 120gb.



Solid_Snake4RD on 26 April 2010
Chris Hu said:
Squilliam said:
It uses aprox 15% less power than the previous slim version and 60% less power than a launch PS3. The 9W standby power is the same however.

Its also the likely reason for the hardware shortages as they were slow to ramp up production of the replacement model and had deliberately bled down their stockpiles of consoles.

Nice info, do you have any idea why they still use a 250W power supply for the slim even though it doesn't even need half that much energy.

where did you get to know what PS3 SLIM with RSX 40nm is still using 250W power supply,i tried to find it in the Pocket news article but couldn't,might have ovelooked it.



joeorc on 26 April 2010
Lightning_24 said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
 

i just searched,and yes Sony is still not branding it as a Slim.They have said it is a sim but not selling it as a slim.they are selling as PS3 120gb and PS3 250gb.Didn't know that.PS2 slim is selling as PS2 SLIM but are PS2's boxes say slim?My box is in storage so can't check it out.

 

Anyways i was expecting PS3 SLIM in 2012 with power brick out.

 

I Think PS3 will only have a price cut this year if 360 has one and has a big impact with it,and 360 arcade will probably have one  to $149.If it doesn't do much then PS3 price cut won't happen.IF it has Impact PS3 will price Move bundle at $299 which will make $30 loss at most and reduce PS3 standloe to $249 to compete.

I went and watched the reveal of the new PS3 and he never called it a slim but new design. He did connect it to PS2 slim but he didn't say and here is the PS3 slim. He continued to call it "design." So yeah they may have said the slimmer PS3 but I don't know if Sony has really branded it the Slim PS3.

not that I have seen so far , most of the time they just call it the PS3. Just look at the new TV kevin butler Ads.



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Lightning_24 on 26 April 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:

 

Lightning_24 was saying they will sell it as a SLIM cause PS2 is being sold as PS2 SLIM and they have that written on their boxes and also online they are selling it as PS2 slim but they are selling PS3 still as PS3 120GB AND PS3 250GB and not as PS3 SLIM 120gb.

I didn't mean that they will sell the new PS3 as a more Slim version and call it the Slim, I was just making a point that I can make stuff up. But maybe later they will say the Slim PS3. Or did you mean later on, I think I'm connecting what you said with when I said at E3 they will show a Slim PS3.



Solid_Snake4RD on 26 April 2010
Lightning_24 said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
 

i just searched,and yes Sony is still not branding it as a Slim.They have said it is a sim but not selling it as a slim.they are selling as PS3 120gb and PS3 250gb.Didn't know that.PS2 slim is selling as PS2 SLIM but are PS2's boxes say slim?My box is in storage so can't check it out.

 

Anyways i was expecting PS3 SLIM in 2012 with power brick out.

 

I Think PS3 will only have a price cut this year if 360 has one and has a big impact with it,and 360 arcade will probably have one  to $149.If it doesn't do much then PS3 price cut won't happen.IF it has Impact PS3 will price Move bundle at $299 which will make $30 loss at most and reduce PS3 standloe to $249 to compete.

I went and watched the reveal of the new PS3 and he never called it a slim but new design. He did connect it to PS2 slim but he didn't say and here is the PS3 slim. He continued to call it "design." So yeah they may have said the slimmer PS3 but I don't know if Sony has really branded it the Slim PS3.

thanks and i just looked at online site,they have listed PS3 as 120GB AND no slim mention.

 

Now we most likely will get a true PS3 Slim.Puts me into dilemma as i was wanting to get the 120GB version selling my fat one,i wanna buy this but if Sony comes and most probably announce a true SLIM with a sexy design next year then i would be wasting money and its temtation would be hard not to follow



Chris Hu on 26 April 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Chris Hu said:
Squilliam said:
It uses aprox 15% less power than the previous slim version and 60% less power than a launch PS3. The 9W standby power is the same however.

Its also the likely reason for the hardware shortages as they were slow to ramp up production of the replacement model and had deliberately bled down their stockpiles of consoles.

Nice info, do you have any idea why they still use a 250W power supply for the slim even though it doesn't even need half that much energy.

where did you get to know what PS3 SLIM with RSX 40nm is still using 250W power supply,i tried to find it in the Pocket news article but couldn't,might have ovelooked it.

I'm talking about the current models they are rated at 250W even though they use less then half of it and half the power of launch models.



Lightning_24 on 26 April 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:

thanks and i just looked at online site,they have listed PS3 as 120GB AND no slim mention.

 

Now we most likely will get a true PS3 Slim.Puts me into dilemma as i was wanting to get the 120GB version selling my fat one,i wanna buy this but if Sony comes and most probably announce a true SLIM with a sexy design next year then i would be wasting money and its temtation would be hard not to follow

Well, I don't know if it's going to be much different form the one now. I think you also mentioned about an external power brick, so it will most likely become as small as the PS2, perhaps they will even change the disc enter thing (I don't know the name for it) to a same design as the PS2 slim. If you think the Slim PS2 is sexy then it's up to you.



ElGranCabeza on 26 April 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Chris Hu said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Lightning_24 said:

One thing people keep saying is the PS3 slim. Well the thing is, Sony has not called the PS3 out now a Slim, the box doesn't even say Slim. Because of this Sony can still launch a slim line, though I'm sure people, you know who you are, will complain about it.

Also I don't understand why someone in this thread thinks the PS3 will go up in price and the 360 will go down in price when move and natal comes out. The fact Sony has a new RSX is probably so they can keep the PS3 at 300 with move+eye and all that stuff for that price. I don't think Sony will have a price drop but they will keep everything at the price now, and we know the price now is working with how well the PS3 is selling.

Another thing is I don't understand why people are calling it a slim 360 when all they are doing, as well, is shrinking the intrenal stuff, most likely the 360 will look the same, stay at the same price and bundle natal with it so they can make a huge profit. I mean it's MS, they want a big profit I'm sure, just like the others want.

I could even say since Sony is making this new RSX available, that this E3 will be the release of the real Slim PS3 and it will be bundled with the move, pseye, and DS3, for just 250. See I can make thinks up too.

i just searched,and yes Sony is still not branding it as a Slim.They have said it is a sim but not selling it as a slim.they are selling as PS3 120gb and PS3 250gb.Didn't know that.PS2 slim is selling as PS2 SLIM but are PS2's boxes say slim?My box is in storage so can't check it out.

 

Anyways i was expecting PS3 SLIM in 2012 with power brick out.

 

I Think PS3 will only have a price cut this year if 360 has one and has a big impact with it,and 360 arcade will probably have one  to $149.If it doesn't do much then PS3 price cut won't happen.IF it has Impact PS3 will price Move bundle at $299 which will make $30 loss at most and reduce PS3 standloe to $249 to compete.

I also expect another PS3 slim down once they move towards 22nm chip sets which should first see the light of day sometime in 2011 so another slimer PS3 with small power brick by 2012 is highly possible I hope they keep the slot drive top loading like the PS2 slim would be silly.  I don't think they will sell that model as a slim either they already changed the lettering and logo once and I don't think they will do it another time.

yeah,i love the slot loader and yeah 22nm is possible straight and i think Toshiba will do that and RSX by 2012.Aony didn't want the 32nm thing.

 

They won't change the lettering and log,that was just done with PS3 cause PS3's maket image wasn't good at that time.They will just follow like they did with PS1 and PS2.

 

Lightning_24 was saying they will sell it as a SLIM cause PS2 is being sold as PS2 SLIM and they have that written on their boxes and also online they are selling it as PS2 slim but they are selling PS3 still as PS3 120GB AND PS3 250GB and not as PS3 SLIM 120gb.

I think if Cell and RSX get down to 32 nm each, that will be sufficient to have a slim v2.0, of course revisions will keep going - 22nm Cell and RSX maybe integrated chip - but it'll just be put onto the motherboard. If Sony waits until both Cell and RSX are 22nm, i.e. 2012-2013, it might be too late for a slim v2.0 to have any kind of major impact, the Cell will probably be 32nm this Fall and RSX will be 32nm next Spring for a slim v2.0 with external PSU for Fall 2011 for U$199, it'll probably be the size of the PSTwo or something, maybe when they move down to 22nm they can add SSD for storage instead of HDD since that'll be cheaper in 2013 as well.

 

There probably won't be any price drops this year, PS3 will be bundled with move, eye and game for U$299 and U$349 for 120GB and 250GB, 360 elite slim will be bundled with Natal for U$249-U$299, 360 arcade Natal bundle will be U$149-U$199. It depends if MS wants to be extra agressive and cut U$50 on the price of the bundle, they are profitable on the entertainment division now so they have room for that if they want.