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Marc Maiffret got into hacking not long after he got his first computer as a schoolboy, and by age 17, he was a known hacker who was greeted one morning by an FBI agent who held a gun to his face.

Since then, Maiffret turned his life around and helped to co-found eEye Digital Security, a company dedicated to finding security flaws in Microsoft's software. Last December, he joined anti-malware firm FireEye as chief security architect.

For all his work trying to find holes in Microsoft's products, Maiffret now says that the Windows maker has the best practices when it comes to software security.

"Now when you look at Microsoft today they do more to secure their software than anyone. They're the model for how to do it. They're not perfect; there's room for improvement. But they are definitely doing more than anybody else in the industry, I would say," Maiffret told CNet in an interview. "From an internal process in how they go about auditing their code and securing software from a technical perspective, they do have one of the best models. The area they still have room for improvement is around time lines of how long it takes for them to fix things."

Maiffret is now pointing to Adobe and Apple as being companies who are lacking in the security department. "They are starting to get black eyes with people saying Adobe is a bigger worry than Microsoft is at the moment, which I agree with. As those things are happening, Adobe and Apple and other companies are starting to pay attention and care more. But a year ago, it was still very much a marketing thing. People from both companies treated it as a marketing problem. They didn't have good technical structures behind the scenes."

Apple has hired an industry-noted security employee formerly of Microsoft, but Maiffret still says that Apple's very much behind when it comes to security. "They've really only begun in the last six months or so taking security seriously and understanding that it impacts their business in a serious way."

Referring to Apple, Maiffret said,"It's even a little scarier with them because they try to market themselves as more secure than the PC, that you don't have to worry about viruses, etc. Anytime there's been a hacking contest, within a few hours someone's found a new Apple vulnerability. If they were taking it seriously, they wouldn't claim to be more secure than Microsoft because they are very much not. And the Apple community is pretty ignorant to the risks that are out there as it relates to Apple. The reason we don't see more attacks out there compared to Microsoft is because their market share isn't near what Microsoft's is."

Maiffret continued, "I think Microsoft does a better job with their code auditing than folks like Apple do. We've only seen a scratching of the surface as far as Apple vulnerabilities because nobody cares to find them. There's nothing inherent with Apple themselves and their development. The only reason Apple gets little increase in security is because they're running on top of a Unix-based operating system and they can take advantage of some of the things that have been done for them."

Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/security-hacker-os-x-windows-7-flash,10205.html

 

My favorite line is: "We've only seen a scratching of the surface as far as Apple vulnerabilities because nobody cares to find them."

Anyways, thoughts?



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I would love to see more people exploit the vulnerabilities in apple products, at least then it would shut all of those annoying fan boys up.

I also figured the market share was the reason as well, along with the fact that everyday people use PCs more than macs



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calvinandhobbes said:
I would love to see more people exploit the vulnerabilities in apple products, at least then it would shut all of those annoying fan boys up.

I also figured the market share was the reason as well, along with the fact that everyday people use PCs more than macs

As bad as that is, I would love to see that too. I'm sick of people who know nothing about computers talking about their Macs like they're the greatest things in the world.

And, that's exactly why the line I quoted is my favorite.



Yep. I wouldnt buy an Apple if someone gave me one.

Wait, What?......



selnor said:
Yep. I wouldnt buy an Apple if someone gave me one.

Wait, What?......

hahaha! 

I would just sell it if someone gave me one and then I would buy a more powerful PC!



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What is that saying...no viruses on Mac; nobody gives a shit...or something of that nature. Anyway, I love my macbook.



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I was hoping to post the TF2 domination music (edit- here we go). Still, now all we need is Apple or Adobe to fire back and we can use the TF2 revenge music :P



That makes perfect sense. No-one else in the industry has been so widely targeted as them. They survived the trial by fire and its paying off. I find windows 7 for example to so far be more secure then when I used xp. OSX was the best experience from a virus standpoint but thats not because of anything that Apple does, its simply because of their market share.



FastFord58 said:
What is that saying...no viruses on Mac; nobody gives a shit...or something of that nature. Anyway, I love my macbook.

He's saying more than that. He's saying Apple's security measures don't even compare to Microsoft's. According to him, Apple hasn't taken security seriously until about 6 months ago, mostly because they didn't have to since Apple's market share is so low.

Here's a graph from ArsTechnica on some recent market share numbers: http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2010/01/while-pc-market-rebounds-apple-slips-into-5th-place-in-us.ars

Apple makes up a little over 7% of the US PC market share, so it's not a big target for hackers. Which has always been what people have been saying, but people don't usually say MS is better about security. And even with Apple's US PC Market Share around 7% , Apple still commands about 35% of operating income:http://www.macworld.com/article/150051/2010/03/apple_profit.html?lsrc=rss_main

No big deal really, and I'm just curious but what makes you like your macbook so much you're willing to pay so much for it?



 

Viruses are made by Anti-Virus Companies..

There was also a report back in the day about a group of Apple fans dedicated to making Windows viruses..

 



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