supercat said:
Yes have you scanned the weekly WW software sales lately? |
Ah yes, of course. The last few weeks/months are proof of everything. As we know, they show that the PS3 will overtake the 360 WW next Tuesday.
supercat said:
Yes have you scanned the weekly WW software sales lately? |
Ah yes, of course. The last few weeks/months are proof of everything. As we know, they show that the PS3 will overtake the 360 WW next Tuesday.
Even in a month or so, the PS3 will probably sell more, of course we'll have to wait for the final result but the PS3 looks to have came out ahead and not only with HW.
hsrob said:
Don't forget the Wiis in closets collecting dust. In fact the weekly software sales are probably just figments of our deluded imaginings. OT: - As someone has stated, replaced consoles can't be counted as sales by MS. They are just not allowed to do this. - I'll preface the next point by stating categorically that the author of the OP has no source for his failure rate and hence any conclusions he draws thereafter are fallacious - However, for a moment, let's assume that there are a large percentage of 360s that have failed and for some reason aren't covered, or are out of warranty. - Point is, if these people choose to replace broken, out of warranty 360s with new systems they still counts as sales for MS. It's no different from a person who chooses to buy two copies of the same system, whether the second system is used or even works, is largely irrelevant. - Install base only matters in-so-far as there is potential to move more software but, and it's a big BUT, even if there are only 32 million actively played 360's out there it is selling a crapload more software per console/owner than Wii or PS3. In summary, the guy has no source to back up his numbers and even if he did, so what, people like 360s so much they buy another even when the first one breaks. Finally to call someone out for producing figures out of thin air doesn't necessitate the caller to make up numbers of their own. I don't pretend to know what the magic number of failed 360's is, I just know enough to realise that the author of the OP doesn't either and shouldn't pretend he does.
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1) I totally beat you to the 'Wii's gathering dust' comment :P
2) Can we delete all posts in this thread that aren't either the OP or the post I just quoted? This post covers all the reasons raised in the preceding 80 or so posts and expresses it much better than any of us had.
scat398 said:
He has a point that has already proven wrong, saying otherwise doesn't make it any less true. |
Where has he been proven wrong? Ive allready proven what you wrote wrong from the official xbox site. this is how you prove wrong, with facts. Not "your wrong"
assumption is the mother of all f**k ups
joshin69 said:
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Read my post on the last page, tell me what you think.
Oh and one last thing that the OP and everyone in here has forgotten. Just because it is out of warranty DOES NOT mean MS (or Sony/Nintendo) won't fix it for you at cost. It is still going to be cheaper to have it repaired via MS than purchasing a new console. So even after the 3 years expire, I'm sure many people will just pay the $99 to get it repaired rather than buy a new $199 or $299 console.
joshin69 said:
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Perhaps you should try to prove him right rather than asking everyone else to prove him wrong.
As far as I can see it is nonsensical to assume 5 million people have decided against either getting free repairs or in the rare event that RRoD happens out of warranty; paying for repairs.

kowenicki said:
so how do you explain 360 software sales? |
Total US userbase of said consoles reported as of this week:
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70,558 (-15%) | 22,861,031 |
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65,617 (-18%) | 13,688,187 |
Total software sales for this week in US for said consoles:
Rarely does the install base reflect the weekly software totals these days. Strange.
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1,365,229 (+25%) | 246,984,906 | 10.80 |
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1,132,327 (-7%) | 121,049,431 | 8.84 |
kowenicki said:
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haha, scary scary :)
CommonMan said:
PS3 is only at 30.4 Million, since 8% of PS3's fail (so 33 million * .92 = 30.36) and they only have a 1 year warranty, most of them died out of warranty and have thus been replaced by the owner. 360 is actually at around 38.5 million, because they instituted the 3 year warrany in 2006 and only a small amount could have died outside of the warranty that just started expiring. So we can assume that MS replaced the vast majority of them under the warranty, and DID NOT count those as sales. So the difference in installed base is actually 8.2 million in favor of the 360. NOW, prove me wrong. You can't of course because this is all based on bad math and speculation, just like the FORUM POST in the OP. You can't prove nonsense wrong, because it's nonsense. |
haha yes!