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libellule on 05 May 2010

so you see, your counter is still at zero

where is the fun ?

there is tonne of site where the 360 community was waiting AW as the GOTY or the GOTCentury and guess what ? it failed.

It is a very good game , with very good visual, very good story, very good atmosphere
(I m pretty sure the art design and the overall atmospere DESTROY Crysis art or atmosphere)

but because of people overhyped AW ... it looks like "a fail"

and guess what ? because it will not get the AAA+ statut that bioshock got, people will not buy it and pre-orders/sales will stay low ... as if the fgame was not worth the money ...

"Microsoft magic" ?

Not so magic if you ask me ...



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Aldro on 05 May 2010
selnor said:
MikeB said:
@ selnor

Lighting and environments are either classed as the best or up there as the best. It seems what is stopping Alan Wake getting overall Graphics king is character models and animation.


Not only that, sub-HD 540p rendering and lack of detail in textures are amongst the other issues which would prevent this by default. Also I read about bad lip sync, screen tearing.

The lighting is interesting, but not the best on consoles technically as pointed out earlier. Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 beats this game at this.


I'm not gonna argue with many of you here. Ive already made a very laughable thread. And now sig. LOL.

But I will say. Any review Ive read thats mentioned 540p has basically said it's a non issue, and is just as crisp as any top game.

Lip syncing comes under character modeling.

And according to reviews no GOW3 and U2 dont beat AW lighting. Lighitng without a doubt whether it be Gametrailers, IGN or Gamepro. All in awe of AW lighitng. Dancing shadows, fog, scale and environments are all points where Alan Wake finds itself right there in the mix with Crysis, GOW3 and U2. It would seem, more attention on lip syncing and animations would have resolved any quams at all with graphics from reviewers. And some added attention to detail on supporting characters. I'm a little disappointed to be honest.

5 years, and it's like they forgot to do the character model finishing touches in the last 6 months. Obviosuly I havent played it, but it would seem it's very much like the Heavy Rain graphics. Best of in some areas, and not in others. A shame, that such trivial things make it fall short, rather than technical hinderances.

But you have to LOL at me.

LOL @You xD.

Im at a point where I don't care so i'll do this:

You are absolutely 110% right! Alan Wake has the BEST lightning EVA!....

......GoW3 and Uncharted 2 happens to still hold the crown when it comes to EVERYTHING else xDD.

 

Now to the Selnor train, next stop is GeoW3 for GOTY and Graphics king!

(I kidd Sel, I wuv you xD <3)

 

Was a bit expected from me though, too much hype :|... The game looks fun though even though gamereactor said that the gameplay is linear and no horror scene or whatever...



selnor on 05 May 2010
libellule said:
so you see, your counter is still at zero

where is the fun ?

there is tonne of site where the 360 community was waiting AW as the GOTY or the GOTCentury and guess what ? it failed.

It is a very good game , with very good visual, very good story, very good atmosphere
(I m pretty sure the art design and the overall atmospere DESTROY Crysis art or atmosphere)

but because of people overhyped AW ... it looks like "a fail"

and guess what ? because it will not get the AAA+ statut that bioshock got, people will not buy it and pre-orders/sales will stay low ... as if the fgame was not worth the money ...

"Microsoft magic" ?

Not so magic if you ask me ...

If I hold my head still, a baseball will take it clean off. ;)



Badassbab on 05 May 2010

MS is focusing way too much on Natal. It could ruin them (or propel them). I'm still buying AW but the PS3 has been taking graphics crown after graphics crown. First KZ2, Uncharted 2 in 2009 and then GOW3 in 2010. Though I think KZ2 is the obvious weaker link in the 3. It looks like there won't be anything this year for the 360 to beat the PS3 in the graphics stakes. It's entirely possible it will stay this way for the rest of this gen. Also seems like 3rd party studios will continue to produce better graphics on the 360 than their own internal lot!

343 Studios better deliver the goods next year....

P.S Sorry to sound like a graphics whore but the 360 tech is 5 years old now. That's quite a long time. I don' t think the PS3 will be able to produce games that look a lot better than it's best now. Better yes but not by much.






Serious_frusting on 05 May 2010

Sony has ruined HD gaming confirmed



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Aldro on 05 May 2010
Serious_frusting said:
Sony has ruined HD gaming confirmed

I lol'd xD



gustave154 on 05 May 2010

game can be beaten in 6 hours lol.... thats kinda short if you ask me.
btw i have not seen a reviewer give a 10 on graphics for alan wake....



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huaxiong90 on 05 May 2010

selnor, I highly respect the fact that you're taking these responses like a man. But I don't think you deserve to have this rubbed in. For the most part, I don't really see the harm in what you do (well ok, a few times I felt you went overboard).

We're only human at the end of the day.



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huaxiong90 on 05 May 2010
MikeB said:
huaxiong90 said:
MikeB said:
huaxiong90 said:
JayReatard said:
Carl2291 said:
JayReatard said:
It will most likely remain at Zero due to this:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-alanwake-sub-hd-blog-entry

"Alan Wake is running at 960x540 with 4x multisampling anti-aliasing"

This doesn't mean it won't look really good, it's just that you can't compete for a graphics title with a sub-HD game.

Wasn't that debunked by Remedy themselves?

I can't remember...

Read the article, they discuss what Remedy was defining as 720p

MGS4 runs at sub-HD. And that didn't stop it from winning best graphics awards over Gears of War 2, which, if I'm not mistaken, runs at 720p native.

MGS4 renders in 768p, that should be considered HD. Alan Wake's 540p is truly sub-HD. The vertical resolution is quite a bit extra compared to Alan Wake (this is what matters the most, increased vertical resolution holds more influence on human perception) and the horizontal resolution is also higher.

MGS4 looks great, certainly more detailed than Alan Wake, but IMO Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 look much greater still.

It falls just short of HD, as Night said. 135,000 pixels short. But again, that doesn't mean the game = terrible looking already, as I think MGS4 had the best graphics of all 2008 releases on consoles.

It should be considered HD, as for example older CRT or Plasma based HDTVs are 1024x768.

Officially: "720 vertical lines in widescreen ratio" is considered HD resolution.

I stand corrected.



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aragod on 05 May 2010
huaxiong90 said:
selnor, I highly respect the fact that you're taking these responses like a man. But I don't think you deserve to have this rubbed in. For the most part, I don't really see the harm in what you do (well ok, a few times I felt you went overboard).

We're only human at the end of the day.

Oh common', we've had to suffer for several months of his AW graphics console king, let us have some fun for atleast a day! Next week he'll be up on some new title, be it Gears 3 or Crysis :)

But props to selnor for taking it like a man, maybe you are not as crazy as I thought!



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