Final-Fan said: Posting on my Wii -- long story -- short post. SM128 is lucky Republic unvoted him; I was inclined to hammer him because I was already leery of him and Republic seemed to have good points and to finally end the day. Kingfate's response seems reasonable to me, even though he didn't specifically address why he bandwagoned so eagerly. I think SM128 overestimates his value to the town, but I'm no longer eager to vote him for other reasons. And @ coenenjo: SM128'S HINT DOES NOT -- *N*O*T* constitute a roleclaim IMO because I can think of 3 roles off the top of my head that would fit that description.

I have made it clear that I considered voting for mario many times, I gave him the benefit of the doubt until he made it seem EVERYONE who questioned him had to be scum.

While someone who "messes up" night actions (bus driver, roleblocker, jailkeeper) can indeed be useful to the town, they can also hurt the town in the situation we are in right now. We have no confirmed townies (apart from the dead ones) so you could mess up a doctor's protection or a cop's investigation.

I'm not saying you're useless but don't overplay your importance. Also, a vanilla townie is not useless especially a confirmed and alive vanilla townie.

TruckOSaurus said: I'm not saying you're useless but don't overplay your importance. Also, a vanilla townie is not useless especially a confirmed and alive vanilla townie.

And how would we get a confirmed vanilla townie?

dsister44 said: TruckOSaurus said: I'm not saying you're useless but don't overplay your importance. Also, a vanilla townie is not useless especially a confirmed and alive vanilla townie. And how would we get a confirmed vanilla townie?

He is suggesting Mario could role claim.

KingFate said: dsister44 said: TruckOSaurus said: I'm not saying you're useless but don't overplay your importance. Also, a vanilla townie is not useless especially a confirmed and alive vanilla townie. And how would we get a confirmed vanilla townie? He is suggesting Mario could role claim.

The mod isn't going to come in here and confirm anyone's role. Iirc he said he would send the person a PM.

Infact I just read the OP again

You're right, he wouldn't be confirmed but my main point was that a vanilla townie is NOT useless. Sure powers help but they aren't the only way of catching scum.

Final-Fan said: Posting on my Wii -- long story -- short post. SM128 is lucky Republic unvoted him; I was inclined to hammer him because I was already leery of him and Republic seemed to have good points and to finally end the day. Kingfate's response seems reasonable to me, even though he didn't specifically address why he bandwagoned so eagerly. I think SM128 overestimates his value to the town, but I'm no longer eager to vote him for other reasons. And @ coenenjo: SM128'S HINT DOES NOT -- *N*O*T* constitute a roleclaim IMO because I can think of 3 roles off the top of my head that would fit that description.

Well of course, if he had been specific instead of thinking of multiple roles you would be thinking of one.

@Trucks
So you are saying I would be more useful as a townie as opposed to having a power role? That makes no sense to me. I know when I should and shouldn't use my powers.

Also, I just find it odd that some people would still vote me when I pretty much GAVE my role away.... Oh well. I'm keeping my vote as it is for good reason.

I cant help but think that at this point ANYONE we think of lynching need only make up a semi-role-claim and we will back off, the problem of course, we have no way of knowing the liars from those who speak the truth.