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hatmoza said

Fun theory, but no SFB wasn't controlled last night.

If that's is the case why did trang said that he controled SFB AFTER finding who link was?

 

trangentspree said:
  • Control - I would get a random selection of 4 players each night and I could pick one to find out all their info and control their night action. I only did this for SciFiBoy AFTER finding out who Link was via my other ability. I can tell you he is some sort of spy and I used his ability to find out the role of another player - but SciFiBoy is the only antitown I have uncovered. No, he used it on SFB day one,  the Blue is unclear to me. is that what tranj said or you commenting?

I'm guessing the "No, he used it on SFB day one" wasn't supposed to be blue, if thats the case then are you saying trangenstpree lied?

The blue comment. I copied the post that trang made so yeah, that's what trang said.

 

trangentspree said:
  • Triforce Detector - I could use this in trying to locate a piece of the triforce - ie Link. There was only a 25% chance of being successful the first try, but it increased in 25% increments with each attempt. I got him with my SECOND attempt. I think he meant this as this was his action on day 2

It's kind of weird that he meant that when he worded it like that, I mean if he had said that he got him in the second day I would believe it. Don't you think?

hatmoza said:

you know, I'm wondering why Tranj didn't use SAK's killing ability knowing that SFB was bad. That's kind of strange. Maybe he did use it against SFB but it went ineffective because SAK died ???

You know what am I wondering? I'm wondering why trangs didn't mention targeting SAK at alal, when he roleclaimed he did it in a way that he was supposed to say everything but he didnt mention that at all, why? If he (you) is the towny he is supposed to be why hide us info? And also, you didnt say anything either until SFB mentioned. Coincidence? I'm a bit exceptical

With that there are 3 things that seem to be off about you and trangs. So at least one of you have lied.

 

theRepublic said:
It seems to me like SciFiBoy is lying, and either Trangentspree or Hatmoza is also lying.

I have had a feeling for awhile now, and I think it is time to reveal it. I think there is a chance that both SciFiBoy and Trangentspree/Hatmoza are scum. They knew last night that Trangentspree was in big trouble, so they came up with a plan for him to gain the town's trust. Think about if we lynched SciFiBoy and he came up scum. Trangentspree would have been golden for the rest of the game. But now Trangentspree has been replaced, and Hatmoza has said some things that directly contradict what Trangentspree has said.

This doesn't seem like a wording issue like Hatmoza is trying to make it out to be.
Trangentspree said:

Control - I would get a random selection of 4 players each night and I could pick one to find out all their info and control their night action. I only did this for SciFiBoy after finding out who Link was via my other ability. I can tell you he is some sort of spy and I used his ability to find out the role of another player - but SciFiBoy is the only antitown I have uncovered.

Triforce Detector - I could use this in trying to locate a piece of the triforce - ie Link. There was only a 25% chance of being successful the first try, but it increased in 25% increments with each attempt. I got him with my second attempt.
It seems pretty clear to me that he said his night actions were Triforce Detector, Triforce Detector, Control SciFiBoy in that order. Not Control SciFiBoy, Triforce Detector, Control SuperAdriank as Hatmoza said. Trangentspree said he only did Control for one person and only after using Triforce Detector successfully. That much is very clear.

Why don't we lynch both of them?

That sounds a lot like what I posted half page ago And I agree with the double lynch.

hatmoza said:
I can prove SFB is lying (again) because I know who Luigi is

Dude falcon seriously If I were scum tranj could have done a lot of damage with SFB abilities... come on think. Don't force me to say anything that will just hurt the town.

Ok, I have heard several of times from you that SFB is lying but now can you tell us in which parts is he lying? That he can kill? that he controled you last night? that he knew who luigi was? All of it?

Damage like.. what? All that I can think of is you telling the role of player you found out but that isn't that bad since unless that person come and says "Yes, he's right I'm X", nothing actually happen.

hatmoza said:
guys you are missing the big picture. SFB is scum, if you want to lynch me, a fellow (now useless) towny I don't mind. As long as you get SFB today. You'll see I'm telling the truth and hopefully all eyes will be set on therepublic who has strangely been trying to divert attention away from sfb and direct it on me.

I honestly don't have a feel for the game since I missed so much but I do have a bad vibe from republic.

Also, FF, (I'm sorry for this, but you guys don't want to let it go)but if you want to know so bad , here it is: Tranj used the control ability on SFB day one and scoped you (FF). You are Luigi.

I also find it extremely strange that falcon asks a question and doesn't respond to it until the next day. When he asked the first question (a few days ago) he didn't respond until over 24 hours despite being online multiple times in that period of time.

No, that's what you want, but the big picture I can see is that we have 3 players contradiction each other, You, trangs and SFB. From what I have seen SFB looks like a safe bet but that doesnt mean we can only focus (and bring down) on him. With your contradictions I'm getting a feeling that a double lynch will great for us.

What do you mean in the last paragraph? What question did I take too long to answer?

@ALL

Ok, I'm making this case of why Hatmoza is very likely to be anti town and you are either ignoring me or just think it's lame and don't say anything at all. I need to know what you guys think about it.

@Everyone asking for what I know

I won't say it just yet, but i'm not able to say "X is innocent" or "X is guilty" so if that's what you are waiting for I think you will be disappointed.

 

 

 



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hatmoza said:
guys you are missing the big picture. SFB is scum, if you want to lynch me, a fellow (now useless) towny I don't mind. As long as you get SFB today. You'll see I'm telling the truth and hopefully all eyes will be set on therepublic who has strangely been trying to divert attention away from sfb and direct it on me.

I honestly don't have a feel for the game since I missed so much but I do have a bad vibe from republic.

Also, FF, (I'm sorry for this, but you guys don't want to let it go)but if you want to know so bad , here it is: Tranj used the control ability on SFB day one and scoped you (FF). You are Luigi.

I also find it extremely strange that falcon asks a question and doesn't respond to it until the next day. When he asked the first question (a few days ago) he didn't respond until over 24 hours despite being online multiple times in that period of time.

I did read Falcon's new post, just so you are aware.

I am going to do a vote for SFB for a few reasons:

  1. The role claim when he didn't need to
  2. The self vote
  3. Since a lot of people are fine with a double lynch of Hatmoza/Scifi
  4. Falcon doesn't want to spill his info, and that's really the only reason we are waiting around

I think if SFB turns out to be scum then Hatmoza is off the hook, if not, I say we get him tomorrow - (he already said in an earlier post he was sure about SFB and if he is not we can lynch him tomorrow).  Hatmoza is confusing the heck out of me with the differences in what Tran told us and what he told us.  I really hope SFB is scum, if not, I am leaning towards theRepublic and Hatmoza.  If SFB is scum, I am agreeing with Hatmoza's bolded paragraph above.

*crosses fingers*

Vote: SFB

 



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@ falcon
-first part of you post-
I honestly have no idea why he said it like that (you would have to ask him) but I got from J0 that he controlled SFB first day. I'm assuming he was lying to make himself less suspicious in already suspicious situation. I honestly have no idea what was going on in his head when he said that. But the blue part, he says he targetted him first day. That part is really unclear to me. I'm not avoiding it, I just don't understand it.

I came out clean from the start. Spilled my beans, not knowing exactly how Tranj played his game. If I was scum do you think I would so easily contradict myself(tranj) ?

I don't know what Tranj intentions were, his wordings are kind of strange.

-about the tri force-
again, from the info j0 gave me, he use it the second day. I think he meant his second atempt as his second day action. If you think his wording is funny how the hell do you think i feel!

-about the controlling of SAK day 3-
Well he was kind of under pressure about the whole kingfate hammer vote, I would imagine that was the last thing on his mind ... plus on this day, he really didn't post much anyway. I don't think this is a fair argument to pin against me. what did you want him to say "oh btw I controlled SAK but he's dead now, oh well." ???? come on falcon THINK, and I will say this again THINK...

-SFB lying-
now you're just splitting hairs. I never said he didn't have the kill ability, I said tranj didn't control him day 3 so he's lying about tranj controlling him to kill sak.
He also lied about (someone) being Luigi. but i forgot about the possibility of the busdriver.



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I can't believe how long it takes falcon to post a response. I think the poor guy works all day on his replies


Back to being serious
Falcon, you said earlier (before I replaced tranj) to the republic that you could reveal important information if tranj revealed who he targeted (controlled) day 3. Why the sudden change of heart?
You firmly said "Yes!" now it's like hush hush, I don't mind it just seems awkward. You had so many people waiting for you reply (many of them withheld their votes because of you) and all you are doing is further attacking me instead of giving everyone that information...



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I think he was hush hush because you didn't satisfy him as your posts contradicted what tranj said.

I'm chalking that up to
A)Tranj was confused
B)J0 sent you a PM that was confusing
C)You are scum

Anyhow, since I hammervoted SFB we will see what happens, oh and if there is a doctor I hope they protect FF



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Tanstalas said:
I think he was hush hush because you didn't satisfy him as your posts contradicted what tranj said.

I'm chalking that up to
A)Tranj was confused
B)J0 sent you a PM that was confusing
C)You are scum

Anyhow, since I hammervoted SFB we will see what happens, oh and if there is a doctor I hope they protect FF

only the part about him controlling SFB is what is contradicting and mind boggling.

@bolded, I'm truly sorry FF for putting you on the spot like that. And I agree if there is a doctor, protect FF.

Tomorrow will shed new light.



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Falcon lurking is nothing new. You should all be used to it now.

I say we lynch SFB and then go on from there, there is a VERY GOOD chance he is scum from the way he has been posting and because he pretty much already gave up and has accepted his fate.




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OK I changed my mind about the double lynch.

Vote SciFiBoy

There's so much contradiction and suspicion in this situation but I really don't think it's likely that SFB is anything but antitown.

I am now against the double lynch because if he's good then his ability will be really helpful if the mafia leave him alone. If he's bad I doubt we have another vigilante so it shouldn't be too bad.

I am also getting pissed off at Falcon. I don't see any reason for him to stonewall us like this, especially when he SAID he'd tell us if certain conditions were met WHICH HAVE BEEN, and considering that he's already only online like 20 minutes a day.

Why do we trust him again?



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Vote Count  (Day 4)

trangentspree: Falcon095 (L-4)

ScifiBoy: supermario128, vetteman94, hatmoza, SciFiBoy, Tanstalasm Final-Fan (L-0 overkill!)


Not Voting: TruckOSaurus, therepublic


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Vote Spread (Day 4)

Tanstalas: trangentspree > TruckOSaurus > ScifiBoy > > SciFiBoy
hatmoza: SciFiBoy > > SciFiBoy
supermario128: trangentspree > SciFiBoy
SciFiBoy: SciFiBoy
Vetteman94: SciFiBoy
TruckOSaurus:
theRepublic: SciFiBoy > 
Falcon095: trangentspree 
Final-Fan: trangentspree > > ScifiBoy > > SciFiBoy



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