djs said:
jarrod said:
Gilgamesh said:
jarrod said:
Gilgamesh said:
JGarret said: Gilga, you think the PS3 can sell 10 million more in Japan before next gen hits? |
The first few years oh PS3 sales were really bad and slow, now that Slim is out and price is down to a reasonable number sales are finally starting to take off, the PS3 is averaging about 30K a week in Japan, I remember 15K use to be it's average. Sales will continue to rise.
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It's currently on a 30-40k high off back to back 500k+ sellers (Yakuza 4 & Hokuto Musou) and Torne being an unexpected success. It's Q2 lineup is dreadful though (it has less new upcoming releases than Wii even), and it's going to drop for sure. Hell, it's been dropping 25% weekly the past two weeks post-Hokuto. Golden week should alleviate that a little, but but after that it's probably in trouble until Q3/Q4.
PS3 will be lucky if it hits 10m ltd in Japan. 15m is pure fantasy.
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Even TheSource thinks 8 - 12 million, GT5 will do wonders for PS3 sales.
With lots of price cuts to come and I can imagine another Slim the PS3 is going to be selling really good in Japan over the next few years.
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GT5Prologue undersold GT4Prologue in Japan. And it was the next gen franchise debut, with comparably more content and even got 50% of it's copies accounted for in hardware bundles. Even still, GT5 won't be near as big as FFXIII (best case) and may not even pass a million in Japan (similar to Mingol 5's substantial generational tumble, or GT/Mingol on PSP). PS3 actually may not even see another million seller in Japan, Versus and GT5 are it's best shots left, but both are somewhat questionable.
A second slim wouldn't have the same sort of impact, similar to PSP3000. PS3 hitting 12m is about as likely as Wii hitting 20m at this point. It's just not going to happen...
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You say GT5 won't be a million seller in Japan? C'mon...
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Mingol 5 wasn't. And the last two gens, Mingol's generally sold on par with GT. It's not the PS2 days anymore...
edit: figures for comparison
- [PS] Minna no Golf (SCE) 1,777,895
- [PS] Minna no Golf (BEST) (SCE) 240,470
- [PS] Minna no Golf 2 (SCE) 951,931
- [PS] Minna no Golf 2 (BEST) (SCE) 399,352
- [PS] Gran Turismo (SCE) 2,186,375
- [PS] Gran Turismo 2 (SCE) 1,460,687
- [PS2] Minna no Golf 3 (SCE) 921,901
- [PS2] Minna no Golf 3 (BEST) (SCE) 304,574
- [PS2] Minn no Golf Online (SCE) 60,522 *required online subscription
- [PS2] Minna no Golf 4 (SCE) 1,083,079
- [PS2] Minna no Golf 4 (BEST) (SCE) 228,432
- [PS2] Minna no Golf 4 (BEST reprint) (SCE) 392,009
- [PS2] Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (SCE) 1,438,743
- [PS2] Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (BEST) (SCE) 74,957
- [PS2] Gran Turismo Concept 2001: Tokyo (SCE) 334,218
- [PS2] Gran Turismo 4 Prologue (SCE) 747,692
- [PS2] Gran Turismo 4 (SCE) 1,066,749
- [PS2] Gran Turismo 4 (BEST) (SCE) 143,714
- [PS2] Gran Turismo 4 Online (SCE) 4,700 *test product, not sold at retail
- [PSP] Minna no Golf Portable (SCE) 399,257
- [PSP] Minna no Golf Portable (BEST) (SCE) 261,117
- [PSP] Minna no Golf Portable 2 (SCE) 287,296
- [PSP] Minna no Golf Portable 2 (BEST) (SCE) 71,623
- [PSP] Gran Turismo (SCE) 247,869
- [PS3] Minna no Golf 5 (SCE) 410,052
- [PS3] Minna no Golf 5 (BEST) (SCE) 101,201
- [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (SCE) 238,578
- [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Spec III (SCE) 295,174 *bundled with PS3 hardware
...honestly, the future's not exactly looking bright for GT5 in Japan. It's down comparably on PSP and PS3 (with Prologue), right in line with Mingol's drop. The only way I can see it cracking 1m is with heavy, HEAVY bundling. Otherwise, it'll probably top out around 800k.