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PhoenixKing said:
You still gain bonuses and the objective is to kill enemies and beat bosses. Thereby it's an rpg.

That is not what defines an RPG. If that's the case then Galaga is an RPG. It isn't.

RPGs are derivative of strategy games and fit in a very specific genre that you're not adhering to. I think on some level you know you aren't actually holding to the gaming definition of RPGs in this topic, which is part of why it's so bizarre.



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I actually wasn't even aware of this break-up of different games in sections until going into forums and even then I thought of games like DMC as "Action RPG".



PhoenixKing said:
I actually wasn't even aware of this break-up of different games in sections until going into forums and even then I thought of games like DMC as "Action RPG".

Now you know. And knowing is half the battle.

So what RPGs according to traditional genre divides have you played from this gen? Outside of Mass Effect, I suppose.



PhoenixKing said:

 That's slightly longer than the length of time it takes to complete most RPG's today.

I never realized just how bad the amount content went down with newer gaming systems.

You must not have played fallout 3 :) I put at least 100 hours, if not more, into that beast. And add in the 5 DLC's (especially Broken Steel) and it adds a ton more game time.



PhoenixKing said:
indodude said:
PhoenixKing said:
indodude said:
OP fails, I've spent 50+ hours on Oblivion and 20+ on Fallout 3 and Final Fantasy XIII. I'm not even close to halfway done with those listed.


I spent 300 hours on Oblivion, including Shivering Isles, and still felt unsatisfied. The dungeons were nice but too short. The boss fights were also meh.

But man, this one game I've been playing had 11 hours in just one dungeon. It took so long...

And a dungeon that only takes an hour or two hours is just short and boring. I'd prefer dungeons that are around 7 hours and with epic storyline fights, those are the most fun.

Like Dragon Quest or SMT Nocturne and sometimes even Tales of.

The game I was playing was Digital Devil Saga 1. And holy hell, is the final dungeon a complete repetitive mess. Really brought the game down for me. I much preferred Nocturne's style of Dungeons.

This game felt like crappy Persona games combined with the True SMT series (of which only actually have 4 games in their name, Nocturne being the third installment).

 

That wasn't my point. You said most RPGs today take 11 hours, I was simply proving you wrong.


Most Rpgs THIS gen. And you only used three examples.

Your counter argument... is kinda moot, dude.. >_>;

My points are moot then, since Heavenly Sword, God of War, Assassin's Creed, Devil May Cry, and every action game that isn't an FPS are RPGs, right?



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indodude said:
PhoenixKing said:
indodude said:
PhoenixKing said:
indodude said:
OP fails, I've spent 50+ hours on Oblivion and 20+ on Fallout 3 and Final Fantasy XIII. I'm not even close to halfway done with those listed.


I spent 300 hours on Oblivion, including Shivering Isles, and still felt unsatisfied. The dungeons were nice but too short. The boss fights were also meh.

But man, this one game I've been playing had 11 hours in just one dungeon. It took so long...

And a dungeon that only takes an hour or two hours is just short and boring. I'd prefer dungeons that are around 7 hours and with epic storyline fights, those are the most fun.

Like Dragon Quest or SMT Nocturne and sometimes even Tales of.

The game I was playing was Digital Devil Saga 1. And holy hell, is the final dungeon a complete repetitive mess. Really brought the game down for me. I much preferred Nocturne's style of Dungeons.

This game felt like crappy Persona games combined with the True SMT series (of which only actually have 4 games in their name, Nocturne being the third installment).

 

That wasn't my point. You said most RPGs today take 11 hours, I was simply proving you wrong.


Most Rpgs THIS gen. And you only used three examples.

Your counter argument... is kinda moot, dude.. >_>;

My points are moot then, since Heavenly Sword, God of War, Assassin's Creed, Devil May Cry, and every action game that isn't an FPS are RPGs, right?

By his definition FPS games would also be RPG's.  Pretty much 99% of all video games would be considered RPG's.



Starocean 4 has a dungeon that takes 3-4 hours to reach the top (with no save points), and also a chance to get your ass beat on the last boss.