guys, before you get pumped, just know that I was playing Red Steel 2 about 3 days ago for 2 days, and all it did was fuck up my arm, I still want to finish that game but man, it's a pain in my ass. In the end, unless something is a pure workout game, I'd still rather sit on my ass it seems. I still find muscle training to be a better way to go for me personally. We are mostly guys here, we don't need some god damn video game to get a work out is all I'm going to say.