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killeryoshis said:
People will do anything to make whatever they like look good, Though you can tell whose bias and whose not

But you have to remember that it can sometimes be at the Wii advantage:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=23329 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=22952 and http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=22951

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=12477 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=12539 and http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=12568

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=23927 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=23929 and http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=23930



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Boutros said:
killeryoshis said:
People will do anything to make whatever they like look good, Though you can tell whose bias and whose not

But you have to remember that it can sometimes be at the Wii advantage:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=23329 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=22952 and http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=22951

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=12477 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=12539 and http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=12568

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=23927 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=23929 and http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=23930

1. Use graphs on the site that allows you to see tham all. (well 3 any way)

Though let me expand more what I said earleir. There comes a time and a place to compare things when tey are simlier.
Wii vs HD Invalid
Ps3 vs 360 is valid (most of the time)

Thing is Wii =/= HD

They are both targeting diffrent tastes. Also all the games you named up there all appeal to the wii's audiance more than
the HD twins or have a advantage that works.



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In previous generation one console had over 50% of the market for hardware and software. This generation it's only in Japan.

When comparing one game that is on the HD to a different game on the wii that is one thing. But to compare a game that is the same on all three. Doesn't mean as much. If one console is getting much more sales than it's share of the market in hardware for a particular game compare that.



The comparison does not come from the fact that PS3 and 360 are HD and Wii isn't, it's just easier to say HD than PS3 and 360. It's just that PS3 and 360 have much superior hardware in terms on graphics and processing, so games made for these consoles cannot be properly ported to the Wii.

So when people compare the combined sales of games from the HD consoles vs the Wii ones it's because PS3 and 360 can have virtually the same games and are on the same market, not being the case with the Wii...



lightbleeder said:
The comparison does not come from the fact that PS3 and 360 are HD and Wii isn't, it's just easier to say HD than PS3 and 360. It's just that PS3 and 360 have much superior hardware in terms on graphics and processing, so games made for these consoles cannot be properly ported to the Wii.

So when people compare the combined sales of games from the HD consoles vs the Wii ones it's because PS3 and 360 can have virtually the same games and are on the same market, not being the case with the Wii...

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@OP, Carl, Khuutra

Buying habits are different between Japan, the Americas and Others on all three consoles.  I took the software sales in each region over the hardware sales in that region and found something rather interesting.  Per region, software sells to about the same % of customers in that region on the two HD consoles.  After doing this (used some popular 3rd party games, FF13, Halo, and MGS: 4), I have no problem lumping the software of the two together for EACH region.

Shooters

    COD:MW2     Battlefield:BC2 Halo3/MGS:4
  Americas Others Japan   Americas Others Japan   Americas Others Japan
PS3 22.00% 22.34% 4.73%   4.69% 3.34% 11.83%   15.52% 11.73% 15.19%
360 30.95% 21.38% 6.25%   5.47% 3.34% 20.13%   34.50% 19.15% 10.16%

Based on the above, we statistically can say that the buying habits for Third Person Shooters are reasonably similar in all three regions.  We can also say that a higher % of American gamers on the 360 buy shooters than their counterparts on the PS3. 

We can also deduce from the highest selling exclusives (Halo3/MGS:4) that America bought a much larger % (per console) on the 360 than they did on the PS3.  Since Halo is an FPS and exclusive and MW2 was advertised as an Exclusive and is an FPS it is reasonable that it has a higher attachrate in the US.  BBC2 is an FPS so it should be much higher too right?  I would say that marketting (was marketted more towards PS3 or atleast I remember it that way) and the early Beta on PSN offset the 360 FPS pull.

Non Shooters: Assasins Creed 2, Fallout 3, GTA IV.

    Ac:2  FO 3 GTA4
  Americas Others Japan   Americas Others Japan   Americas Others Japan
PS3 11.20% 10.74% 2.37%   7.17% 6.36% 1.38%   20.50% 21.76% 6.31%
360 9.46% 9.11% 4.69%   8.89% 5.84% 7.03%   21.10% 18.56% 7.81%

 

These are three very popular 3rd party games all from different genres on each system.  As you can see, the difference between each game in each region is very marginal (highest is 3.2% on GTA4 which easily falls without VGcharts Margin of error).  These games show that the PS3 crowd in EACH REGION is similar to that of the 360 in the SAME REGION.

Final Fantasy 13 (just cause its awesome)

FFXIII
  Americas Others Japan
PS3 6.73% 5.05% 37.48%
360 3.02% 2.62% NA

What is interesting about Final Fantasy is Japan.  The attachrate for FF13 in Japan is VERY similar to the attachrate of Halo 3 in the US.  These two games define their systems in each of those regions.  Some might look at this data here and say that the PS3 sells more JRPGs.  I would completely disagree with that statement.  We have nothing to compare these numbers to.  We need a new JRPG (and a big one, HELLO KINDOM HEARTS 3) to be multiplat.  Once this happens we will see if this trend of more RPGs sold on the PS3 holds up.

 

Due to  the above numbers being so very similar, I will assume 3 things. 

1) Buying habits PER REGION are the same, regardless of which HD console IE (Europe 360 buys the same as Europe PS3)

2) There is no reason NOT to combine the two HD sales when comparing a game on them to a game on the Wii (which is notably different)

3) Americans LOVE Halo and Japan loves FF13 :)

(ALL FIGURES USED ARE FROM VGCHARTZ.  I used rounded Number such as: 7.07M MW2 360, 13.66M PS3 America, etc)

This took me a bit, so if you see a problem let me know so I can fix it.



Skeeuk said:
i dont think its right to combine ps360 together, the question is if you are going to buy a hd console ps3 or 360, no matter which one you choose the games are better than on the wii.

Is that a fact?



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I just laugh when people compare the sales of a game on both HD platforms to the sales of a game on the Wii.. Just shows how much Wii is dominating both consoles that their fans actually have to resort to COMBINING the sales of both platforms vs one.

I guarantee if you started combining 360 and Wii game sales against the PS3, suddenly PS3 game sales wouldn't look so great either..



Mr Puggsly said:
Arius Dion said:

LoL. Thank you for calling me savvy. But here's the thing, identifying myself as a self proclaimed casual gamer was more tongue in cheek due to the whole idea of Wii gamers being casual gamers by default (I hate all those terms, casual hardcore etc). I don't act like I am above it, I am above it. I may be apart of it, simply because like the lot of us here, I enjoy Video Games.

I should also note, that my games collection includes games I owned at one point of my life, but don't any longer..for circumstances beyond my control. And as for bias towards Nintendo. Yeah, I am partial to their games. But understand that is just my preference. Every one will have their own preferences.

The sad thing is some try to place more importance on their own preference of games and somehow try and make it out to be superior to others. THAT is what I have a problem with, that is where I fight my battles. But I do so in a way that isn't meant to troll or whatever. However, I have no control over how you or any one else on this site take what I post. And truthfully, I don't really care.

I do hope, though, that maybe my posts will reflect the ideas and thoughts onlookers who haven't joined this site yet can identify with. Much like many posters here resonated with me before I joined. That is all.

This post comes off unbias. But your last one oozed Nintendo fan. And I have a feeling you'll generally spin an arguement to defend Nintendo.

You're free to have a preference, as do I. But I don't care about any company enough defend every aspect of it and will admit the weaknesses.

Uh..Ok? I don't agree with everything Nintendo does nor 'defend' a company that doesn't pay my bills..Hell I don't defend a company that pays my bills lol. Call it what you will, spin, facts, I honestly don't care, dude. Of course I'm a fan of Nintendo, as I've said, just look at my avatar, but I'm no fanatic, I ain't taking no bullet for them (no offense Rol) But I try to call a spade a spade and that's all from my perspective.

That's the thing, we can be in a museum looking at the same work of art and see two totally different things, that's all there is to it.



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If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

Bamboleo said:
ironman said:
I fail to see how this matters...you have your console, now go play it and stop complaining about how it is treated "unfairly".

If you fail, it's not my fault. Don't bother posting then.

Well, actually it is your fault, you were unable to convey why this thread is even remotely important. The only reason I bothered posting was because I'm tired of all this "the Wii gets put down all the time" bullshit. It's in the lead and as such amazes me that some people even think that it matters when it's compared to two technologically more advanced consoles which combined barely make the sales numbers of the Wii. Why do you care so much? What can you possibly gain by having people stop comparing the Wii phenomenon to the HD twins. If it's vindication...well then you my friend, lead a sad life where the only way you can feel good about your choice of console is by making sure nobody dares say anything bad about it. 



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