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Sharky54 on 17 April 2010
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What is stopping Kratos from getting the triforce from gannon first. And then taking whatever he needs from link? Link is a badass. But Kratos is more badass.


And comparing the two with everything they have ever had is stupid. But I still think kratos would win. because he gets items that gives him unlimited health. Thus he cannot die.

This should have been a poll. Lol.

Largely two things.

 

A) Ganon doesn't exist in this world.  It's Kratos vs Link.

B) Kratos doesn't have anything that gives him Triforce immunity... he couldn't beat Ganon.  Link can only beat Ganon because he specifically has anti-reality warping weapons.

C ) As for Kratos having infinite health... he just... doesn't.  I mean otherwise... the fights towards the end of the game wouldn't be such a struggle for him would they? 

He gets items in games 2 and 3 that give him unlimited stuff. I am fairly certain health is one of them. He also gets costumes that cause almost no damage to be done to him etc etc. If he can use these. Link can't hurt him.

 

Except... he doesn't.  Those costumes aren't within the canon of the character.

That's like saying Duke Nukem would beat any character in a fight because he would activate God Mode.

What are you talking about? The God of War armor isnt kratos? The ares armor? The hydra armor? Etc etc? These ARE part of him. The fish and stuff like that arent. But those are never the best. The ones that make sense in the game are. And those are the ones I am talking about.

Nothing that gives Kratos Infinite health is in canon.

Not true. Artifacts from the titans and gods give mortals certain powers.

Ok.... then why does GOW3 play out like it does.  (Trying to avoid spoilers).

Which still doesn't get around the whole... reality manipulation thing.

 

 

Perhaps to make the game difficult? When he was riding Gaia the urns from 2 fell out of his pocket? Lol.

That's the point... they aren't in Canon.

The urns aren't usbeable until "bonus play" and are never used by him outside of bonus play... despite the fact that you find them before a New Game +.

Afterall, the urns are found during the first quest... yet can't ever actually be used until a New game +.  For all intensive purposes they don't exist.

Also, none of the urns actually gives him infinite health.

take a look.

http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Items

Closest thing I can imagine your thinking of is the Chalice of Hera, which is also... non canon and still not going to protect Kratos from reality manipulation.

 

It's not a slight against Kratos or anything Link is just cheap as hell.

Why cant any of the items be used from older zelda games? Same thing. Who cares when they can be used. unlimited rage of the titans/gods = unlimited life.



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Kasz216 on 17 April 2010
Sharky54 said:
Kasz216 said:
Sharky54 said:
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Sharky54 said:
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Sharky54 said:
Kasz216 said:
Sharky54 said:
Kasz216 said:
Sharky54 said:
What is stopping Kratos from getting the triforce from gannon first. And then taking whatever he needs from link? Link is a badass. But Kratos is more badass.


And comparing the two with everything they have ever had is stupid. But I still think kratos would win. because he gets items that gives him unlimited health. Thus he cannot die.

This should have been a poll. Lol.

Largely two things.

 

A) Ganon doesn't exist in this world.  It's Kratos vs Link.

B) Kratos doesn't have anything that gives him Triforce immunity... he couldn't beat Ganon.  Link can only beat Ganon because he specifically has anti-reality warping weapons.

C ) As for Kratos having infinite health... he just... doesn't.  I mean otherwise... the fights towards the end of the game wouldn't be such a struggle for him would they? 

He gets items in games 2 and 3 that give him unlimited stuff. I am fairly certain health is one of them. He also gets costumes that cause almost no damage to be done to him etc etc. If he can use these. Link can't hurt him.

 

Except... he doesn't.  Those costumes aren't within the canon of the character.

That's like saying Duke Nukem would beat any character in a fight because he would activate God Mode.

What are you talking about? The God of War armor isnt kratos? The ares armor? The hydra armor? Etc etc? These ARE part of him. The fish and stuff like that arent. But those are never the best. The ones that make sense in the game are. And those are the ones I am talking about.

Nothing that gives Kratos Infinite health is in canon.

Not true. Artifacts from the titans and gods give mortals certain powers.

Ok.... then why does GOW3 play out like it does.  (Trying to avoid spoilers).

Which still doesn't get around the whole... reality manipulation thing.

 

 

Perhaps to make the game difficult? When he was riding Gaia the urns from 2 fell out of his pocket? Lol.

That's the point... they aren't in Canon.

The urns aren't usbeable until "bonus play" and are never used by him outside of bonus play... despite the fact that you find them before a New Game +.

Afterall, the urns are found during the first quest... yet can't ever actually be used until a New game +.  For all intensive purposes they don't exist.

Also, none of the urns actually gives him infinite health.

take a look.

http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Items

Closest thing I can imagine your thinking of is the Chalice of Hera, which is also... non canon and still not going to protect Kratos from reality manipulation.

 

It's not a slight against Kratos or anything Link is just cheap as hell.

Why cant any of the items be used from older zelda games? Same thing. Who cares when they can be used. unlimited rage of the titans/gods = unlimited life.

Well

 

A) Letsdance said Kratos in GOW3 could beat "all links combined".  This has been a conversation of Kratos in God of War 3 vs "All links combined ever"  of which Letsdance still won't admit Link would win, what with him having the Triforce in said scenario.  We haven't been able to discuss indivdual links or a combned Kratos yet because of his stubornness.  Personally I think when it breaks down to individual links it depends on the Link.  LttP and PH links I would say win.  Adventures of Link, Link I would say loses to Kratos.  The rest... i'd have to look into more.

B) The old Zelda items are in canon... as in the exist within the narative of the story.  The urns do not exist within the narrative of the story.  As far as Kratos is concerned, they don't exist. 

C) Unlimitead Rage of the titans/gods doesn't = infinite health.  You take damage during rage of the titans/gods.

http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Rage_of_the_Titans

http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Rage_of_the_Gods



Sharky54 on 17 April 2010

I am fairly certain you take no damage in at least rage of the gods. I never did anyway. And no link could beat Kratos alone. I mean link is very powerful and all. But he gets killed by random skeletons and stuff. Kratos fights more powerful foes. And tears them to pieces.



Goodfella on 17 April 2010

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Kasz216 on 17 April 2010
Sharky54 said:
I am fairly certain you take no damage in at least rage of the gods. I never did anyway. And no link could beat Kratos alone. I mean link is very powerful and all. But he gets killed by random skeletons and stuff. Kratos fights more powerful foes. And tears them to pieces.

No, you take damage.

Also... Kratos can also die by random undead and stuff... you know.  He fights them in the game... and can die by them.  No different then Link.

http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Undead_Legionnaire

Also, you should keep in mind... that as mentioned.  Phanton Hourglass link can literally stop time.

Kratos can't beat someone who stops time.



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Sharky54 on 17 April 2010

Kratos can control time as well though. He can also double jump!

You are lucky I am bored and no one is awake to talk to. Lol. This is such a stupid thing to talk about.

Kratos would just rip a limb from Link and beat him to death with it. I am sure of that. ;)



Sharky54 on 17 April 2010

Oh and I know he fights undead also. But he fights badass undead. Not a simple skeleton.



Kasz216 on 17 April 2010
Sharky54 said:
Kratos can control time as well though. He can also double jump!

You are lucky I am bored and no one is awake to talk to. Lol. This is such a stupid thing to talk about.

Kratos would just rip a limb from Link and beat him to death with it. I am sure of that. ;)

Kratos can travel through time.  He can't stop it.

Also he can only travel through the time of his world.

 



Kasz216 on 17 April 2010
Sharky54 said:
Oh and I know he fights undead also. But he fights badass undead. Not a simple skeleton.

I don't see how you see the undead Kratos fight as more "badass" outside of a simple prefrence for Kratos. They do the exact same things... except Stalfos can actually do more stuff.

You've yet to argue how Kratos would fight off the triforce, or Links ability to freeze time.

Your arguemets seem to amount to "I really want Kratos to win, so i'm sure he would win."

 



thetonestarr on 17 April 2010
SmoothCriminal said:
Um.... It depends on which Link. Link from the 2-D Zelda games? Hell no. Link from Wind Waker, about 50/50. Link from Twilight Princess and Link from OoT? He would wreck Kratos's shit.

As for the "Kratos has killed gods" theroy, he has killed Greek gods. We must take into account the fact thta Greek Gods can be killed, whereas other deities are different. No one can kill the Christian God, as their religion says so. We must assume that, since this is a crossover, the rules from both universes apply. Link could also kill the Greek gods (in theroy) because their laws allow it to be so. The gods of Hyrule, however, cannot be killed. Therefore, Kratos couldn't kill a Hylian god.

We also seem to be forgetting that, if Link had access to the Triforce, he would be granted any wish he wanted. This includes Kratos's death.

We must also consider the fact that Link was chosen specifically by the Gods. He is the "Chosen One", if you will.

Also, the reappearing of him in every Zelda game is proof that, if killed, he would simply reincarnate in 100 years or so.

You're the first person in this entire thread to actually approach this correctly and logically. The way it works is that BONUSES and WEAPONS from either world can only be used by the character from that world, but "drop items" or "pickups" are fair game.

 

Thus said, Link has far, far more health at the end of the game, especially after visiting all of the Great Fairies. Combine that with the fact that Link could easily use Green and Blue Orbs during the battle too, and you've got an awful lot of power. Add to that the Magical Armor, which I guarantee none of Kratos' weaponry would penetrate unless I'm missing one. Blades of Athena? Blades of Exile? Claws of Hades? Nemesis Whip? Nemean Cestus? Nearly every one of them has a Zelda counterpart, so naturally Link would be able to withstand or counteract them.



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