since this is still going on I thought I'd ask a question in any legend of zelda games are there things that can turn link to stone? if so does it cause any damage or just freeze him for a bit and if there is is there an item that blocks it?

Oh it was obvious Khuutra was biased from the begining. That I have no doubt with. Also, you guys are arguing with facts you really don't have.  So no... you aren't just lookin at the data. You assume link would use one wish (We only know for a fact there is on wish granted. We don't know if there is more) To kill Kratos... A man he has never met. You assume Master Sword > Blade of Olympus. You assume Link would get an oppertunity to use the weapons.

I repeat again.  Phanton Hourglass link can STOP TIME.

There are so many just outright dues ex machina powers Link has it's bullshit.

He can't be hurt for a limited time period. Even with the milk it only last a certain period. Khuutra even gave that to me... I'd say logically (Again something you will ignore) the milk would last as long as it takes for your body to matabloize it. So no.. it doesn't guarentee victory. Kratos also has an item that projects light and its yet to be seen if it would uncover Links cloak like how it works for Kratos. Again... If they use each item and have the powers Kratos has the head link can now be damaged. Even if it didn't work 100% kratos can still see his shadow. He can still dodge.

Just so we're clear here... your trying to use logic... in a games where people throw around mountains.

You do know if you actually tried to pick up a mountain do to the physics of it... it would collapse leaving you with the size of a small boulder right?

Or that... Kratos body would have to be so muscular he couldn't move to pull off ever a quarter of the stuff he pulls of?

Simply put, you are just trying to loophole your way into Kratos winning... because well... you want Kratos to win.

Also... Link can stop time.

Couldn't Kratos just use the head from the start,blind Link then snap his little neck?

Again... you are assuming Link would have the oppertunity to use this object. He can stop time in LoZ too.

Anyway to be clear... are you electing use that sword over the master sword? The main sword in the series? The sword that is the main weapon against evil forces?

I keep seeing logic brought up time and again, and it brings to mind something Inigo Montoya once said to Vizzini. "You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means."

Logic is this: Jill is taller than Jenny, Jenny is taller than Suzie, is Jill taller than Suzie? Answer: Yes.

Logic is not this: "I'd say logically (Again something you will ignore) the milk would last as long as it takes for your body to matabloize it." This is called speculation.

I've maintained my stance that there needs to be some logic to this otherwies illogical scenerio. Because... welll in your very very litteral interpretation this would never happn since each character is fictional... thats a boring scenario.

Exactly... they think Link uses his items instantaneous but I doub't link would have enough time to reach in his bag a goodies and select a weapon. Also... I would think Link would try and use his sword and shield... his most commonly used weapon... his most efficient weapon for him... his most comfortable weapon to him... Why would link look at Kratos and automatically assume "I should pull out my cape and put it on" Even if he does its assuming he has enough time to use it. Rather than trying a sword and shield first like he typically does. Also... this fight would benifit more if link took less items to fight with. Kratos has the tendancy of taking things he finds usefull and using them against his oppenants.