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--OkeyDokey-- on 15 April 2010

I can't believe such a one sided argument got 630 replies.



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letsdance on 15 April 2010
Kasz216 said:
letsdance said:
Kasz216 said:
Khuutra said:
letsdance said:
Khuutra said:
lets dance said:

Kas' interpretation was Ganon only had it for that long because his wish hasn't come true yet... so what is it?

It's never made clear exactly how the Triforce works. That's an enigma. We don't even really know what Ganon did with it except change the Sacred Realm into the Dark World just by holding.

All we know is that Link used it and changed the world.

LOL so you are arguing facts you don't know... awesome... Well I say SPOILER**** Kratos kills everyone and he ascends into an omnipotent being since we don't know what happens to him after the credits.... see I can do that too...

Not arguing anything I don't know.

Link, holding it, is able to change the fabric of reality on a whim. He has access to it.

That's all that matters.

Indeed, your argueing against Omniptoence here Letsdance...

Even without the full Triforce, he still has one piece of it... which is far too much for Kratos to handle.


I don't know how you are measuring the power of a third of the triforce. I have never seen Link do anything half as spectacular as Kratos without a nifty item... Unless you count being able to take the sword.

That's because Link is pure skill. 

It's like combning an average guy with a sledgehammer... and a trained Samurai.


The guy with the sledgehammer is going to look more impressive... the Samurai is going to wipe the floor with him every time.


Lol... kratos has more skill than Link. Link is actually quite an amatuer swordsmen. He gets one training class and learns a new skill... Still doesn't compare to Kratos.



Boutros on 15 April 2010
--OkeyDokey-- said:
I can't believe such a one sided argument got 630 replies.

And it's showing legs. I can see it reaching well over a thousand.



Kasz216 on 15 April 2010
letsdance said:
Kasz216 said:
letsdance said:
Kasz216 said:
Khuutra said:
letsdance said:
Khuutra said:
lets dance said:

Kas' interpretation was Ganon only had it for that long because his wish hasn't come true yet... so what is it?

It's never made clear exactly how the Triforce works. That's an enigma. We don't even really know what Ganon did with it except change the Sacred Realm into the Dark World just by holding.

All we know is that Link used it and changed the world.

LOL so you are arguing facts you don't know... awesome... Well I say SPOILER**** Kratos kills everyone and he ascends into an omnipotent being since we don't know what happens to him after the credits.... see I can do that too...

Not arguing anything I don't know.

Link, holding it, is able to change the fabric of reality on a whim. He has access to it.

That's all that matters.

Indeed, your argueing against Omniptoence here Letsdance...

Even without the full Triforce, he still has one piece of it... which is far too much for Kratos to handle.


I don't know how you are measuring the power of a third of the triforce. I have never seen Link do anything half as spectacular as Kratos without a nifty item... Unless you count being able to take the sword.

That's because Link is pure skill. 

It's like combning an average guy with a sledgehammer... and a trained Samurai.


The guy with the sledgehammer is going to look more impressive... the Samurai is going to wipe the floor with him every time.


Lol... kratos has more skill than Link. Link is actually quite an amatuer swordsmen. He gets one training class and learns a new skill... Still doesn't compare to Kratos.

Not actually the case... he only needs 1 lesson because you know... he has the Triforce of Courage, which amplfies that.  Ever see the Marvel villian Taskmaster?

Once again, your entire lack of knowledge about Zelda is ruining your ability to debate this.  Please replay your zelda games... and note the Triforce is actually used for stuff... go read canon matieral... etc.

Your making yourself look silly.

 



Wonktonodi on 15 April 2010
Boutros said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
I can't believe such a one sided argument got 630 replies.

And it's showing legs. I can see it reaching well over a thousand.

so what do you two think so far? 



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Khuutra on 15 April 2010
Wonktonodi said:
Khuutra said:

The Loom of th Fates is tied intrinsically into the fabric of the God of War world, and doesn't have any affcts on worlds outside of it because it asn't woven to interact with other worlds.

Letsdance made the rules. Botha them get their full equipment in a power-neutral environment. Link murders Kratos.

So you're saying you would limit it to canon... but moreso? Why put up the special restrictions?

if Link interactss with Kratos I'd think he'd then have a thread in the loom. 

well i guess i missed many of letsdance's rules since it wasn't in the first post. both full powers and equiepment in power neutral environment I'd think it would be a never ending fight. unless think the triforce is all powerful when from what I read it was made by goddeses.  Thus there was a power more than that and it was godlike.  Powers that Kratos has.  So two godlike entities fighting till they get bored. 

I'd put restrictions on so the last senario wouldn't happen. 

Threads in the loom aren't automatic. The Sisters have to weave your Fate into it, and you can fight against Fate, too, like Kratos did.

Regardless, the Sisters have been dead. No new lives are being added to the weave. It was actually Kratos's first step to destorying the world.

The goddesses are creation goddesses. All-powerful. The Triforce is literally the essence of their powers, on level with the creation goddsses hemselves. That's why it can create, reshape, and destroy entire worlds.

Kratos does not compare.



Khuutra on 15 April 2010
--OkeyDokey-- said:
I can't believe such a one sided argument got 630 replies.

So is it one-sided based on your reading of the arguments made, or the same off-the-cuff reaction from the start?

If you wanna argue, I'll argue with you. I'm just

I need someone to argue with, at this point.



Wonktonodi on 15 April 2010
Khuutra said:
Wonktonodi said:
Khuutra said:

The Loom of th Fates is tied intrinsically into the fabric of the God of War world, and doesn't have any affcts on worlds outside of it because it asn't woven to interact with other worlds.

Letsdance made the rules. Botha them get their full equipment in a power-neutral environment. Link murders Kratos.

So you're saying you would limit it to canon... but moreso? Why put up the special restrictions?

if Link interactss with Kratos I'd think he'd then have a thread in the loom. 

well i guess i missed many of letsdance's rules since it wasn't in the first post. both full powers and equiepment in power neutral environment I'd think it would be a never ending fight. unless think the triforce is all powerful when from what I read it was made by goddeses.  Thus there was a power more than that and it was godlike.  Powers that Kratos has.  So two godlike entities fighting till they get bored. 

I'd put restrictions on so the last senario wouldn't happen. 

Threads in the loom aren't automatic. The Sisters have to weave your Fate into it, and you can fight against Fate, too, like Kratos did.

Regardless, the Sisters have been dead. No new lives are being added to the weave. It was actually Kratos's first step to destorying the world.

The goddesses are creation goddesses. All-powerful. The Triforce is literally the essence of their powers, on level with the creation goddsses hemselves. That's why it can create, reshape, and destroy entire worlds.

Kratos does not compare.

why not if he too can destroy why can't he also create?



letsdance on 15 April 2010
Kasz216 said:
letsdance said:
Kasz216 said:
Khuutra said:
Kasz216 said:
Khuutra said:

It's never made clear exactly how the Triforce works. That's an enigma. We don't even really know what Ganon did with it except change the Sacred Realm into the Dark World just by holding.

All we know is that Link used it and changed the world.

I seem to have recalled reading that if used by someone who isn't balanced or chosen, it breaks up again and you only keep the triforce piece that best fits you... that's why it broke up when Ganon had it.

Either way, it doesn't matter with Link.

It happens when you first touch it, but Ganon can have it when he brings the pieces together again.

Oh yeah, i never argued he couldn't.  I'm just saying that's why it broke up the first time.

If someone like link touched it... they wouldn't need to bother reassembling it.

So you believe... since this isn't touched upon we are just going to have to assume a regular joe schmoe who was selected to weild to triforce of courage doesn't have the balance either. In fact my interpretation of the whole triforce thing was it was a metephor. That the balance has always and will always be all three.

The fact that you think the Triforce is a metaphor shows you weren't paying any attention... like at all... to any Zelda game you played.

That's like me saying that I believe Kratos godly powers were a metaphor and he was really just some kid at camp having a daydream becuase he wasn't allowed to go into the pool because he's afraid of leeches.
Only Zelda Ive seen it be as an actual item was LoZ. Also the "born with it" kinda doesn't make sense if its a tangible item. Sorry but there is an inconsistancy here. You thinking Link isn't an amatuer shows how much you know. He is just a boy with a wooden sword in Ocarina of time. Yes he levels his skills up but no where near Kratos level. Kratos probablly had better fighting skills as a 10 year old than adult link


Khuutra on 15 April 2010
Wonktonodi said:
Khuutra said:

Threads in the loom aren't automatic. The Sisters have to weave your Fate into it, and you can fight against Fate, too, like Kratos did.

Regardless, the Sisters have been dead. No new lives are being added to the weave. It was actually Kratos's first step to destorying the world.

The goddesses are creation goddesses. All-powerful. The Triforce is literally the essence of their powers, on level with the creation goddsses hemselves. That's why it can create, reshape, and destroy entire worlds.

Kratos does not compare.

why not if he too can destroy why can't he also create?

He's never been shown to have the power, and he doesn't destroy things directly anyway? Much less on the scale that Link acts with the Triforce.