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letsdance on 15 April 2010
Kasz216 said:
letsdance said:
Kasz216 said:
letsdance said:
Kasz216 said:
letsdance said:
Kasz216 said:
JerCotter7 said:
Khuutra:

For link to hit kratos wouldn't he have to will whatever body part he wants to hit with to become solid? Because if not the whole argument just fails.

And if, lets say his hand, becomes solid and kratos blade is where link was aiming for that would hurt link.

To be honest I haven't played either but your argument just seems so unrealistic.

You have a Warmachine avatar.  Therefore you should be familiar with the Vision.  Vision is constantly damaging people while they can't hit him... with semitangiable hands that the other person can't do crap about unless they have some sort of energy attack.


Warmachine =/= Link.

BTW - the item description of the Cape does not say he can't be hit just because the devs didn't add in damage doesn't mean thats how it works. The reason why Khuutra has been full of double standards this whole thread... that is untill he admits Link wins because the devs made it so that Kratos can only stay on the path so once Kratos flys or touches out of bounds he is automatically dead

Warmachine =/= link?  So your not even reading anyones posts anymore then?

You need to calm down, take a deep breath, and do more research into a franchise you claim you love.

The cape doesn't even matter... thought that IS how it works and has nothing to do wth the devs.  All link needs is the Triforce.  It's basically Kratos "hope" powers... but stronger.

 

Afterall they had to specifically put in the intangibility.  It's not somethign that was left out... it was something specifically put in.


I've never seen link get the triforce. Yes, they put in intangibility... what I'm arguing is they didn't take it out when he attacks.

Ok... here's a developer lesson.

There are these things called "hit boxes" these decide if your hit or not.  This is why, back in the day often times you'd get hit before you got hit.  Your hitbox was extended.

The hit boxes are are done a frame by frame basis.  Which is why, ducking mario doesn't get hit by objects that would hit standing mario.  His hitbox is smaller.

This means, that they had to delibritly take out the hitboxes for "cloaked and swinging" link.

It wasn't an oversite.  It was deliberate.


And what would happen when the player would swing the sword while in a wall and a hit box reappears? A wall... something that deals no damage...

If they put in hitboxes?  He wouldn't be able to move until the sword movement stopped.  Nothing big.  Once the sword swing stopped, his hitbox would disapear again and he'd be free to move.

 

 


So your telling me the devs were so short sight just a few years before with not damaging Link with bombs and they could not possibly be short sighted and make another mistake in another Zelda game there after?



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Kasz216 on 15 April 2010
letsdance said:
Kasz216 said:
letsdance said:
Kasz216 said:
letsdance said:
Kasz216 said:
letsdance said:
Kasz216 said:
JerCotter7 said:
Khuutra:

For link to hit kratos wouldn't he have to will whatever body part he wants to hit with to become solid? Because if not the whole argument just fails.

And if, lets say his hand, becomes solid and kratos blade is where link was aiming for that would hurt link.

To be honest I haven't played either but your argument just seems so unrealistic.

You have a Warmachine avatar.  Therefore you should be familiar with the Vision.  Vision is constantly damaging people while they can't hit him... with semitangiable hands that the other person can't do crap about unless they have some sort of energy attack.


Warmachine =/= Link.

BTW - the item description of the Cape does not say he can't be hit just because the devs didn't add in damage doesn't mean thats how it works. The reason why Khuutra has been full of double standards this whole thread... that is untill he admits Link wins because the devs made it so that Kratos can only stay on the path so once Kratos flys or touches out of bounds he is automatically dead

Warmachine =/= link?  So your not even reading anyones posts anymore then?

You need to calm down, take a deep breath, and do more research into a franchise you claim you love.

The cape doesn't even matter... thought that IS how it works and has nothing to do wth the devs.  All link needs is the Triforce.  It's basically Kratos "hope" powers... but stronger.

 

Afterall they had to specifically put in the intangibility.  It's not somethign that was left out... it was something specifically put in.


I've never seen link get the triforce. Yes, they put in intangibility... what I'm arguing is they didn't take it out when he attacks.

Ok... here's a developer lesson.

There are these things called "hit boxes" these decide if your hit or not.  This is why, back in the day often times you'd get hit before you got hit.  Your hitbox was extended.

The hit boxes are are done a frame by frame basis.  Which is why, ducking mario doesn't get hit by objects that would hit standing mario.  His hitbox is smaller.

This means, that they had to delibritly take out the hitboxes for "cloaked and swinging" link.

It wasn't an oversite.  It was deliberate.


And what would happen when the player would swing the sword while in a wall and a hit box reappears? A wall... something that deals no damage...

If they put in hitboxes?  He wouldn't be able to move until the sword movement stopped.  Nothing big.  Once the sword swing stopped, his hitbox would disapear again and he'd be free to move.

 

 


So your telling me the devs were so short sight just a few years before with not damaging Link with bombs and they could not possibly be short sighted and make another mistake in another Zelda game there after?

Short sited... in adding something in?  You would have to deliberlty make this so.  So yeah, it's not a mistake.

Your arguement has crumbled.

Mistakes of addition aren't even remotley similar to mistakes of ommission.



Khuutra on 15 April 2010
RolStoppable said:
letsdance, the point of bringing up Gran Turismo 2 was to show that ownership and completion of a game not necessarily makes you a fan. I've also played other GTs, but that doesn't really matter.

If your original argument was that Kratos would annihilate all Links combined, then knowing four or five out twelve games isn't exactly sufficient, don't you think? It's like ignoring two and a half men, errr..., God of War games when determining Kratos' absolute power.

Maybe we can let twesterm argue for Kratos no-wait no he's actually played GoW2 now, dang.



Khuutra on 15 April 2010
Bong Lover said:

Khuutra: Thank you ever so much for your contributions to this thread! I love reading this kind of stuff, and I'm not talking about the useless quibber over what character can beat whom. I have had a great time watching your total manhandeling in this thread. I know you probably realized 30 pages ago or more that you had the opponent outclassed and the joy of debating just isn't the same when there is no contest, still thanks for riding it out. It's been a true joy to read.

letsdance: You have no idea of how badly you have been outperformed in this 'debate'. I hope at least the vgc bucks turns out to be worth it.

Thank you.

I know it's a silly thing to argue about, but I'm glad it entertained someone. Especially someone with a Jesus avatar.



letsdance on 15 April 2010
RolStoppable said:
letsdance, the point of bringing up Gran Turismo 2 was to show that ownership and completion of a game not necessarily makes you a fan. I've also played other GTs, but that doesn't really matter.

If your original argument was that Kratos would annihilate all Links combined, then knowing four or five out twelve games isn't exactly sufficient, don't you think? It's like ignoring two and a half men, errr..., God of War games when determining Kratos' absolute power.


Thats cool but there is no situation brought up yet to suggest link would win. Khuutra has ignored most of the valid points. Like when he says "He wouldnt see link attack" and I say "With the cape there is still a shadow" and he ignores it. Or the fact that... even with the cape link has a limited amount of time to win a fight with kratos who can take a hit and keep on ticking... if link were to ever land a hit since kratos has the boots of hermes which... make him super fast. And Kratos is very agile already. Also, Khuutra ignores the balance concept that developers use to pace the game... He says Kratos never uses the items that he gets thus he doesn't have them in the fight... thats the most ignorant thing said in this thread... more ignorant than anything Ive said. Khuutra is being close minded and full of double standards... why would I argue with him?



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Kasz216 on 15 April 2010
letsdance said:
RolStoppable said:
letsdance, the point of bringing up Gran Turismo 2 was to show that ownership and completion of a game not necessarily makes you a fan. I've also played other GTs, but that doesn't really matter.

If your original argument was that Kratos would annihilate all Links combined, then knowing four or five out twelve games isn't exactly sufficient, don't you think? It's like ignoring two and a half men, errr..., God of War games when determining Kratos' absolute power.


Thats cool but there is no situation brought up yet to suggest link would win. Khuutra has ignored most of the valid points. Like when he says "He wouldnt see link attack" and I say "With the cape there is still a shadow" and he ignores it. Or the fact that... even with the cape link has a limited amount of time to win a fight with kratos who can take a hit and keep on ticking... if link were to ever land a hit since kratos has the boots of hermes which... make him super fast. And Kratos is very agile already. Also, Khuutra ignores the balance concept that developers use to pace the game... He says Kratos never uses the items that he gets thus he doesn't have them in the fight... thats the most ignorant thing said in this thread... more ignorant than anything Ive said. Khuutra is being close minded and full of double standards... why would I argue with him?

Noones buying it... that's why nobody is really defending you.  You just haven't put up any points worth defending against.  In the situation you created... Kratos can't hurt link... period.  Link can hurt Kratos.  It's a no win for Kratos.



letsdance on 15 April 2010
Kasz216 said:
letsdance said:
RolStoppable said:
letsdance, the point of bringing up Gran Turismo 2 was to show that ownership and completion of a game not necessarily makes you a fan. I've also played other GTs, but that doesn't really matter.

If your original argument was that Kratos would annihilate all Links combined, then knowing four or five out twelve games isn't exactly sufficient, don't you think? It's like ignoring two and a half men, errr..., God of War games when determining Kratos' absolute power.


Thats cool but there is no situation brought up yet to suggest link would win. Khuutra has ignored most of the valid points. Like when he says "He wouldnt see link attack" and I say "With the cape there is still a shadow" and he ignores it. Or the fact that... even with the cape link has a limited amount of time to win a fight with kratos who can take a hit and keep on ticking... if link were to ever land a hit since kratos has the boots of hermes which... make him super fast. And Kratos is very agile already. Also, Khuutra ignores the balance concept that developers use to pace the game... He says Kratos never uses the items that he gets thus he doesn't have them in the fight... thats the most ignorant thing said in this thread... more ignorant than anything Ive said. Khuutra is being close minded and full of double standards... why would I argue with him?

Noones buying it... that's why nobody is really defending you.


Or no one is defending me because they realize how close minded Khuutra has been... Few posts of his in he said another completely ignorant statement "Links kill list makes Kratos' really really really puny" Kratos killed numerous armies in the name of Ares. His evidence "I did it in the first Zelda" Well fuck... if we can do that "I ran through the game without killing anything except for the must fight creatures to unlock doors or chests or bosses" and "I never got the magic cape therefor Link doesn't have it" If can do that type of shit why can't I?



CommonMan on 15 April 2010

I'd pit this guy



against either of them, and we still haven't even seen his Bankai!



No one in the world ever gets what they want, and that is beautiful.

Khuutra on 15 April 2010
letsdance said:
RolStoppable said:
letsdance, the point of bringing up Gran Turismo 2 was to show that ownership and completion of a game not necessarily makes you a fan. I've also played other GTs, but that doesn't really matter.

If your original argument was that Kratos would annihilate all Links combined, then knowing four or five out twelve games isn't exactly sufficient, don't you think? It's like ignoring two and a half men, errr..., God of War games when determining Kratos' absolute power.


Thats cool but there is no situation brought up yet to suggest link would win. Khuutra has ignored most of the valid points. Like when he says "He wouldnt see link attack" and I say "With the cape there is still a shadow" and he ignores it. Or the fact that... even with the cape link has a limited amount of time to win a fight with kratos who can take a hit and keep on ticking... if link were to ever land a hit since kratos has the boots of hermes which... make him super fast. And Kratos is very agile already. Also, Khuutra ignores the balance concept that developers use to pace the game... He says Kratos never uses the items that he gets thus he doesn't have them in the fight... thats the most ignorant thing said in this thread... more ignorant than anything Ive said. Khuutra is being close minded and full of double standards... why would I argue with him?

Oh for the love of

Okay. Listen.

Link, at the end of Link to the Past, has the entire Triforce. With it he has the power to grant life and reshape the entire world according to his heart's desire. So it goes like this.

1. Link brings Kratos's family back to life.

2. Link causes Mount Olympus to crumble and all the gods to go away.

3. Link banishes the Great Evils from Pandora's Box, annihilating them altogether.

4. Link heals Kratos's shattered conscience, reuniting him with his family, freeing him from the evils of his own heart.

5. Link makes the world of God of War into a paradise.

6. Kratos is happy, and also a normal guy.

7. LINK STABS HIM IN THE HEAD

THere! There's your scenario! There is your scenario using Link's insane reality-rewriting powers!



Khuutra on 15 April 2010
RolStoppable said:
Well yeah, Khuutra is known to have double standards and use all sorts of dirty tricks to win a debate. The most troublesome thing though is that even the mods fall for it every now and then and ban people who disagree with him. It happened to Zen and I am sure there were others.

I generally try to stay clear of Khuutra for that reason, also because I can't be bothered to play his mind games. I usually tell him that the games he likes suck and leave it at that.

There's a good reason I've never won an argument with Rol, you guys