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Khuutra on 15 April 2010
Xero said:
Khuutra said:
Xero said:
Btw, just to note Kratos will be in Dominus skin for 200% attack power and 50% damage from enemies.

Wait, are we operating outside of canon, here?

No if Link can pause it to change equipment Kratos can at least change his skin. 

So are you suggesting that Link and Kratos can't switch their weapons (since neither have a visible way of carrying them) or are you suggesting that the canonical ability to carry an absurd number of weapons is somehow equated with the non-canonical ability of being able to walk around in the body of Athena, or Hercules?

Canonically speaking, Kratos doesn't have access to those costumes. He never ran aorund in the Dairy Bastard outfit in-canon.



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Khuutra on 15 April 2010
chapset said:
Khuutra said:
chapset said:

well Kratos can come back from the dead so, he is the truie immortal from god of war, so link cannot win, only delay the inevitable

He'd still lose the fight.

not if he's still alive

I'm pretty sure that if you die, go to Hell, and then come back to life hours later, you still ost the fight. Kratos lost the first fight with Charon, even if he came back from it later.



alfredofroylan on 15 April 2010

Can't believe this thread has 28 pages



letsdance on 15 April 2010
Khuutra said:
letsdance said:
caz604 said:

But you see that is exactly the problem...

 

You're trying to add your logic to a videogame. 

Its like me trying to add logic to a comic book characters traits knowing full well it depends on the creator/author to determine.  Does it have to be realistic?  Does it have to be fair?  Does it have to be equitable?  They can make it the way they want. 

If that cape allows the user to hit but cannot be touched, well then thats the way it is.  What does logic have to do with it?  Overpowered?  Uber'd?  Sure, but thats been happening in videogames like forever.

As for your parameters, then you yourself have to limit those in your arguments.  Assuming you said Kratos by GoW3 and all the Links combined.

I'm not adding logic. Unless we all agree Kratos just drops dead which I already suggested then Khuutra is full of double standards. He knows that saying "Yes kratos would just drop dead" is ridiculous in itself thats why he hasn't responded to it. He knows its just as ridiculous as saying Link is intangible. And the cape doesn't work that way. Everything I read just says it makes him invisible and AT WILL he can walk through walls. Just because the Devs made it so that "will" means anytime the player selects the cape doesn't make it work like that.

BTW - http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/reply.php?thread=106969"e=3336897

Thats when I stopped taking him seriously.

I'm adhering to the canon of the games. Kratos doesn't step out of bounds in canon. Link's Magic Cape has the properties I described in canon. What you read has nothing to do with it, nor does any line of reasoning that has nothing to do with what's in the game. You can't "logic" your way out of how things work in-game.

And I killed more enemies in the first Zelda than there are enemies in the entire God of War series. Link's body count is as high as you want it to be, while htere is an absolute limit to how high Kratos's can be. Period. More than that, though, Link's kill list in terms of boss's is freaking enormous.


Kratos has conquared entire armies. Numerous armies. Are you telling me Link has killed millions of people?? Considering armies can have hundreds of thousands of men.



Khuutra on 15 April 2010
alfredofroylan said:

Can't believe this thread has 28 pages

I can't believe that I'm half of them



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Khuutra on 15 April 2010
letsdance said:
Khuutra said:

I'm adhering to the canon of the games. Kratos doesn't step out of bounds in canon. Link's Magic Cape has the properties I described in canon. What you read has nothing to do with it, nor does any line of reasoning that has nothing to do with what's in the game. You can't "logic" your way out of how things work in-game.

And I killed more enemies in the first Zelda than there are enemies in the entire God of War series. Link's body count is as high as you want it to be, while htere is an absolute limit to how high Kratos's can be. Period. More than that, though, Link's kill list in terms of boss's is freaking enormous.

Kratos has conquared entire armies. Numerous armies. Are you telling me Link has killed millions of people?? Considering armies can have hundreds of thousands of men.

Kratos didn't slaughter entire armies by himself (though Link has fought off armies by himself) - he lead armies into battle with other armies. Kratos's army was pretty much the biggest army.

Though I'll acknowledge that Ares's body count is probably higher than Link's.



chapset on 15 April 2010
Khuutra said:
chapset said:
Khuutra said:
chapset said:

well Kratos can come back from the dead so, he is the truie immortal from god of war, so link cannot win, only delay the inevitable

He'd still lose the fight.

not if he's still alive

I'm pretty sure that if you die, go to Hell, and then come back to life hours later, you still ost the fight. Kratos lost the first fight with Charon, even if he came back from it later.

huh no, there is no rule that say if you die once you lose, this thread is about who would annihilate who, if kratos can come back from the dead and still be able to kick link's ass is far from being annihiliate isn't he



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TinouX on 15 April 2010
Xero said:

 

Heliosis head isn't light rays or magic. It simply returns anything to trueform. The walls and chests kratos illuminates are in bright sunlight and previously intangible (they can't be hit or anything like that). And the head of helios does not deplete kratos' mana pool so it is not a type of magic, plus you only provide the instance of 'fire magic'. 

 

I think this is a key point.  Looking at Helios' Head as simply something that produces some light is a simplistic take on it.  In fact, it's a lot more powerful that that and, as you say, one of its abilities is to return things to true form.  There are doorways covered with solid rock that you can't break through (such as just after you rip off Helios' head), yet illuminating where the doorway would be elimates the rock.  The rock covering the doorway was always there and didn't simply appear because the sun went out.  Simply shining regular sunlight on it won't remove the head, but using Helios' head will. 



letsdance on 15 April 2010
Khuutra said:
Xero said:
Khuutra said:
Xero said:
Btw, just to note Kratos will be in Dominus skin for 200% attack power and 50% damage from enemies.

Wait, are we operating outside of canon, here?

No if Link can pause it to change equipment Kratos can at least change his skin. 

So are you suggesting that Link and Kratos can't switch their weapons (since neither have a visible way of carrying them) or are you suggesting that the canonical ability to carry an absurd number of weapons is somehow equated with the non-canonical ability of being able to walk around in the body of Athena, or Hercules?

Canonically speaking, Kratos doesn't have access to those costumes. He never ran aorund in the Dairy Bastard outfit in-canon.


Link can only carry 3 items, a sword, a shield, and a tunic at a time. He doesnt have a magic ass hole that shits items out as he needs them. The developers made it that you can swap weapons out for fun factor... again... you are arguing the fact that since the developers made it that way its a rule. Kratos usually only has one set of weapons out at a time. Yes he has that one nifty combo that allows him to cycle through his weapons. Kratos has a lot of items on him though. Golden fleece. Blades of... Helios head. Hermes boots.



Khuutra on 15 April 2010
chapset said:
Khuutra said:
chapset said:

not if he's still alive

I'm pretty sure that if you die, go to Hell, and then come back to life hours later, you still ost the fight. Kratos lost the first fight with Charon, even if he came back from it later.

huh no, there is no rule that say if you die once you lose, this thread is about who would annihilate who, if kratos can come back from the dead and still be able to kick link's ass is far from being annihiliate isn't he

If we're going to go that far, then Kratos has fulfilled his purpose and won't come back from the dead again, but it wouldn't matter anyway since Link would still whoop Kratos's ass within the context of the fight as outlined so far.