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JaggedSac on 08 April 2010
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He presented an evolution of the technical demo shown at E3 last under the name Ricochet, only the presentation has evolved and added a few features to enhance the experience. Regarding the game, it is a kind of pediment in which we use our body to bounce one or several balls against the wall, to destroy all the cardboard boxes located at the bottom of the screen. Accumulate points according to how fast we get sound and also see a pair of power-ups to multiply the speed of the balls and the number of these on the screen. A simple minigame that gives samples of the possibilities of Natal Project.

Looking a little attention to this show, we see it as almost every one of the promises that were on the table have been achieved. First is the response of the camera and the speed with which captures the movements. Although it still lacks some minor shifts, there is a surprising degree of fidelity of our motions and the speed with which these are reflected on the screen. We have seen the volume sensor is capable of capturing in three dimensions with full fidelity, being even able to detect the speed and strength of our movements when hitting the ball (making this could be thrown without wake, with Smoke and fire trail and even leaving behind them to hit with great power).

At the end of each game the camera showed us on screen as a slide show photos of ourselves playing for some of the highlights of our performance, recognizing the movements that we play and giving the names of the most curious, being even possible unlock achievements by making certain figures in the game. A very interesting possibility. Another detail that we have been enjoying for the first time has been the implementation of two simultaneous players, allowing each to interact with the game separately and totally reliable. At the point of development of the project has not yet succeeded in introducing a final collision routine, but it is commendable that shown so far in terms of identification of the extremities of each of the players.

Finally we have also seen how they could be the menu systems using Natal Project. In this particular case the players had to extend the hand forward to catch a virtual ball on the screen and scroll through the options (basically the gender of the avatar and start / finish line). So much Natal experience this time, although we said that the product in its current state is much more advanced, this being only a small part of the possibilities that wield the remaining titles will be launched the same device Christmas.

 

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As you may have guess, the experience is really positive and the feeling of freedom is absolute. We had prepared a conceptual game already known to hit the balls in a glass roof that has been seen many times on several occasions. This version was slightly better and had some new details, such as contextual menus, choice of player, new look of the characters on screen and other minor details.

The receiver sensitivity is amazing, being virtually instantaneous response time in single-player game, where you could identify perfectly the force with which to hit the ball, its direction and distance just waving his arms. That little lag almost imperceptible in the single game is somewhat increased when there are two players on screen, but even so, the reaction of the console is also impressive.

 

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Last night, we feel, experience and enjoy our bodies with Project Natal, surely the folks at Microsoft yesterday I was surprised, despite the typical test demo gallery shattering glass boxes and balls, I saw the camera meets and exceeds all expectations.
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Three impressions of a newer version of both Natal and the Ricochet tech demo.  Two players playing together, and great response times.


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DirtyP2002 on 08 April 2010

Yeah, I think the random french blog is a credible source.

Just wait for E3 and enjoy the show instead of talking nonsense without ANYTHING to back it up.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

nightsurge on 08 April 2010
JaggedSac said:
Quote:
He presented an evolution of the technical demo shown at E3 last under the name Ricochet, only the presentation has evolved and added a few features to enhance the experience. Regarding the game, it is a kind of pediment in which we use our body to bounce one or several balls against the wall, to destroy all the cardboard boxes located at the bottom of the screen. Accumulate points according to how fast we get sound and also see a pair of power-ups to multiply the speed of the balls and the number of these on the screen. A simple minigame that gives samples of the possibilities of Natal Project.

Looking a little attention to this show, we see it as almost every one of the promises that were on the table have been achieved. First is the response of the camera and the speed with which captures the movements. Although it still lacks some minor shifts, there is a surprising degree of fidelity of our motions and the speed with which these are reflected on the screen. We have seen the volume sensor is capable of capturing in three dimensions with full fidelity, being even able to detect the speed and strength of our movements when hitting the ball (making this could be thrown without wake, with Smoke and fire trail and even leaving behind them to hit with great power).

At the end of each game the camera showed us on screen as a slide show photos of ourselves playing for some of the highlights of our performance, recognizing the movements that we play and giving the names of the most curious, being even possible unlock achievements by making certain figures in the game. A very interesting possibility. Another detail that we have been enjoying for the first time has been the implementation of two simultaneous players, allowing each to interact with the game separately and totally reliable. At the point of development of the project has not yet succeeded in introducing a final collision routine, but it is commendable that shown so far in terms of identification of the extremities of each of the players.

Finally we have also seen how they could be the menu systems using Natal Project. In this particular case the players had to extend the hand forward to catch a virtual ball on the screen and scroll through the options (basically the gender of the avatar and start / finish line). So much Natal experience this time, although we said that the product in its current state is much more advanced, this being only a small part of the possibilities that wield the remaining titles will be launched the same device Christmas.

 

Quote:
As you may have guess, the experience is really positive and the feeling of freedom is absolute. We had prepared a conceptual game already known to hit the balls in a glass roof that has been seen many times on several occasions. This version was slightly better and had some new details, such as contextual menus, choice of player, new look of the characters on screen and other minor details.

The receiver sensitivity is amazing, being virtually instantaneous response time in single-player game, where you could identify perfectly the force with which to hit the ball, its direction and distance just waving his arms. That little lag almost imperceptible in the single game is somewhat increased when there are two players on screen, but even so, the reaction of the console is also impressive.

 

Quote:
Last night, we feel, experience and enjoy our bodies with Project Natal, surely the folks at Microsoft yesterday I was surprised, despite the typical test demo gallery shattering glass boxes and balls, I saw the camera meets and exceeds all expectations.
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Three impressions of a newer version of both Natal and the Ricochet tech demo.  Two players playing together, and great response times.

Nice!



BenVTrigger on 08 April 2010
eggs2see said:
BenVTrigger said:
How about we actually see the tech for ourselves people instead of running around and bad mouthing the product. Could Natal be revolutionary? Quite possibly. It could also end up being a huge failure but lets wait until we actually get a good look at the new build and software before drawing conclusions.

My fellow VG user ben, you state that Natal could very well be revolutionary. Do you mind telling the rest of us how? I don't mean to single you out, but other than hype from the media and from Microsoft, we havn't seen anything to show that Natal is anything better than an improved eyetoy.

While some people may down play Natal as i just have, by you saying that it could very well be revolutionary, with absolutely no evidence at all, you are just as bad.


What?  Im trying to figure out if this is a real post or not.  Natal has shown plenty to make it POSSIBLY revolutionary.  If MS can find a way to make true controller free gaming fun, quick and accessible it will make a massive impact on the industry.  As I already stated it might end up a failure but the poential is certainly there.



gekkokamen on 08 April 2010

^yeah. I'm sure the HD consoles have the potential to make real-time avatar-like graphics.... MUST SEE TO BELIEVE.



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fighter on 08 April 2010
nightsurge said:
JaggedSac said:
Quote:
He presented an evolution of the technical demo shown at E3 last under the name Ricochet, only the presentation has evolved and added a few features to enhance the experience. Regarding the game, it is a kind of pediment in which we use our body to bounce one or several balls against the wall, to destroy all the cardboard boxes located at the bottom of the screen. Accumulate points according to how fast we get sound and also see a pair of power-ups to multiply the speed of the balls and the number of these on the screen. A simple minigame that gives samples of the possibilities of Natal Project.

Looking a little attention to this show, we see it as almost every one of the promises that were on the table have been achieved. First is the response of the camera and the speed with which captures the movements. Although it still lacks some minor shifts, there is a surprising degree of fidelity of our motions and the speed with which these are reflected on the screen. We have seen the volume sensor is capable of capturing in three dimensions with full fidelity, being even able to detect the speed and strength of our movements when hitting the ball (making this could be thrown without wake, with Smoke and fire trail and even leaving behind them to hit with great power).

At the end of each game the camera showed us on screen as a slide show photos of ourselves playing for some of the highlights of our performance, recognizing the movements that we play and giving the names of the most curious, being even possible unlock achievements by making certain figures in the game. A very interesting possibility. Another detail that we have been enjoying for the first time has been the implementation of two simultaneous players, allowing each to interact with the game separately and totally reliable. At the point of development of the project has not yet succeeded in introducing a final collision routine, but it is commendable that shown so far in terms of identification of the extremities of each of the players.

Finally we have also seen how they could be the menu systems using Natal Project. In this particular case the players had to extend the hand forward to catch a virtual ball on the screen and scroll through the options (basically the gender of the avatar and start / finish line). So much Natal experience this time, although we said that the product in its current state is much more advanced, this being only a small part of the possibilities that wield the remaining titles will be launched the same device Christmas.

 

Quote:
As you may have guess, the experience is really positive and the feeling of freedom is absolute. We had prepared a conceptual game already known to hit the balls in a glass roof that has been seen many times on several occasions. This version was slightly better and had some new details, such as contextual menus, choice of player, new look of the characters on screen and other minor details.

The receiver sensitivity is amazing, being virtually instantaneous response time in single-player game, where you could identify perfectly the force with which to hit the ball, its direction and distance just waving his arms. That little lag almost imperceptible in the single game is somewhat increased when there are two players on screen, but even so, the reaction of the console is also impressive.

 

Quote:
Last night, we feel, experience and enjoy our bodies with Project Natal, surely the folks at Microsoft yesterday I was surprised, despite the typical test demo gallery shattering glass boxes and balls, I saw the camera meets and exceeds all expectations.
%3D%26sa%3DX%26tbo%3D1%26rlz%3D1G1GGLQ_ENUK249%26tbs%3Dqdr:d
Three impressions of a newer version of both Natal and the Ricochet tech demo.  Two players playing together, and great response times.

Nice!

This



eggs2see on 08 April 2010
ramses01 said:
eggs2see said:
BenVTrigger said:
How about we actually see the tech for ourselves people instead of running around and bad mouthing the product. Could Natal be revolutionary? Quite possibly. It could also end up being a huge failure but lets wait until we actually get a good look at the new build and software before drawing conclusions.

My fellow VG user ben, you state that Natal could very well be revolutionary. Do you mind telling the rest of us how? I don't mean to single you out, but other than hype from the media and from Microsoft, we havn't seen anything to show that Natal is anything better than an improved eyetoy.

While some people may down play Natal as i just have, by you saying that it could very well be revolutionary, with absolutely no evidence at all, you are just as bad.


Rather than place the burden on another user to explain things that should be obvious, you might consider why you don't make the same observation.

There is zero doubt that NATAL has the POTENTIAL to be revoluationary.  Will it?  Who knows, but its potential shouldn't be subject to debate. 

It should be obvious how natal could be revolutionary? I realise this has been discussed to death, however it doesn't change the fact that there has been no evidence of natal being revolutionary that i have seen.  As i originally stated, we havn't seen the natal tech doing anything more than very basic things.

The reason that some people are saying it will be revolutionary is simply because microsoft has told us all this, and we blindly believe.



ramses01 on 08 April 2010
eggs2see said:
ramses01 said:
eggs2see said:
BenVTrigger said:
How about we actually see the tech for ourselves people instead of running around and bad mouthing the product. Could Natal be revolutionary? Quite possibly. It could also end up being a huge failure but lets wait until we actually get a good look at the new build and software before drawing conclusions.

My fellow VG user ben, you state that Natal could very well be revolutionary. Do you mind telling the rest of us how? I don't mean to single you out, but other than hype from the media and from Microsoft, we havn't seen anything to show that Natal is anything better than an improved eyetoy.

While some people may down play Natal as i just have, by you saying that it could very well be revolutionary, with absolutely no evidence at all, you are just as bad.


Rather than place the burden on another user to explain things that should be obvious, you might consider why you don't make the same observation.

There is zero doubt that NATAL has the POTENTIAL to be revoluationary.  Will it?  Who knows, but its potential shouldn't be subject to debate. 

It should be obvious how natal could be revolutionary? I realise this has been discussed to death, however it doesn't change the fact that there has been no evidence of natal being revolutionary that i have seen.  As i originally stated, we havn't seen the natal tech doing anything more than very basic things.

The reason that some people are saying it will be revolutionary is simply because microsoft has told us all this, and we blindly believe.

Sigh, a proper response would probably get me banned again since the mods seem incapable of distinquishing artfully applied logic from trolling.

Short version - it might be helpful to read the definition of potential



luvtospooge on 08 April 2010
CommonMan said:
gekkokamen said:
Well, somebody correct me if I'm ignorant, but: do we know ANYTHING about Natal? I mean, final specs? how the thing actually works with OFFICIAL data? What Natal games we know about? It seems to me WE HAVE SEEN TOO LITTLE of Natal.


I completely agree with this, it's fun to speculate, but we need more info before we can really say ANYTHING about it.

Yet the hype for that machine is crazy.



luvtospooge on 08 April 2010
fighter said:
nightsurge said:
JaggedSac said:
Quote:
He presented an evolution of the technical demo shown at E3 last under the name Ricochet, only the presentation has evolved and added a few features to enhance the experience. Regarding the game, it is a kind of pediment in which we use our body to bounce one or several balls against the wall, to destroy all the cardboard boxes located at the bottom of the screen. Accumulate points according to how fast we get sound and also see a pair of power-ups to multiply the speed of the balls and the number of these on the screen. A simple minigame that gives samples of the possibilities of Natal Project.

Looking a little attention to this show, we see it as almost every one of the promises that were on the table have been achieved. First is the response of the camera and the speed with which captures the movements. Although it still lacks some minor shifts, there is a surprising degree of fidelity of our motions and the speed with which these are reflected on the screen. We have seen the volume sensor is capable of capturing in three dimensions with full fidelity, being even able to detect the speed and strength of our movements when hitting the ball (making this could be thrown without wake, with Smoke and fire trail and even leaving behind them to hit with great power).

At the end of each game the camera showed us on screen as a slide show photos of ourselves playing for some of the highlights of our performance, recognizing the movements that we play and giving the names of the most curious, being even possible unlock achievements by making certain figures in the game. A very interesting possibility. Another detail that we have been enjoying for the first time has been the implementation of two simultaneous players, allowing each to interact with the game separately and totally reliable. At the point of development of the project has not yet succeeded in introducing a final collision routine, but it is commendable that shown so far in terms of identification of the extremities of each of the players.

Finally we have also seen how they could be the menu systems using Natal Project. In this particular case the players had to extend the hand forward to catch a virtual ball on the screen and scroll through the options (basically the gender of the avatar and start / finish line). So much Natal experience this time, although we said that the product in its current state is much more advanced, this being only a small part of the possibilities that wield the remaining titles will be launched the same device Christmas.

 

Quote:
As you may have guess, the experience is really positive and the feeling of freedom is absolute. We had prepared a conceptual game already known to hit the balls in a glass roof that has been seen many times on several occasions. This version was slightly better and had some new details, such as contextual menus, choice of player, new look of the characters on screen and other minor details.

The receiver sensitivity is amazing, being virtually instantaneous response time in single-player game, where you could identify perfectly the force with which to hit the ball, its direction and distance just waving his arms. That little lag almost imperceptible in the single game is somewhat increased when there are two players on screen, but even so, the reaction of the console is also impressive.

 

Quote:
Last night, we feel, experience and enjoy our bodies with Project Natal, surely the folks at Microsoft yesterday I was surprised, despite the typical test demo gallery shattering glass boxes and balls, I saw the camera meets and exceeds all expectations.
%3D%26sa%3DX%26tbo%3D1%26rlz%3D1G1GGLQ_ENUK249%26tbs%3Dqdr:d
Three impressions of a newer version of both Natal and the Ricochet tech demo.  Two players playing together, and great response times.

Nice!

This

Are those spanish websites any more credible than the French ones?

 

EDIT: Just saw the videos, looks like it.