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lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
This game is rather easy, so nothing springs to mind that much.

Hrrmmmm...... Neochu? Well, that was pretty easy when I decided to stop focusing on the tiny bastards around him.

The boss that killed me the most times was Havoc Skytanker, but that was before I figured out it had armor.

If you luck out in your SEN, that he always provokes the little buggers and protects your party from their attacks and have good timing with your Paradigm Shift to avoid Neochu's Screech attack 12K damage, then yes, it can be an easy fight, but it's more dependent on luck than on skill. 

Overall it's pretty tough if you don't luck out, and pretty much everyone recognizes that the Neochus are amongst the hardest fights in the game. The only ones that I see harder than Neochus are the two Ratjavikias and the Long Gui. 

Oh no, I just Deathed the shit out of him. Very easy.

Shrouds break this game so much, I already beat Mission 63 and barely crossed 10K HP for my main 3 characters.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

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dtewi said:
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
This game is rather easy, so nothing springs to mind that much.

Hrrmmmm...... Neochu? Well, that was pretty easy when I decided to stop focusing on the tiny bastards around him.

The boss that killed me the most times was Havoc Skytanker, but that was before I figured out it had armor.

If you luck out in your SEN, that he always provokes the little buggers and protects your party from their attacks and have good timing with your Paradigm Shift to avoid Neochu's Screech attack 12K damage, then yes, it can be an easy fight, but it's more dependent on luck than on skill. 

Overall it's pretty tough if you don't luck out, and pretty much everyone recognizes that the Neochus are amongst the hardest fights in the game. The only ones that I see harder than Neochus are the two Ratjavikias and the Long Gui. 

Oh no, I just Deathed the shit out of him. Very easy.

Shrouds break this game so much, I already beat Mission 63 and barely crossed 10K HP for my main 3 characters.

So, you used a cheap trick and you call the game easy? I see >_>

Why not try to fight him fair and square next time? No Death and no shrouds? 



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lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
This game is rather easy, so nothing springs to mind that much.

Hrrmmmm...... Neochu? Well, that was pretty easy when I decided to stop focusing on the tiny bastards around him.

The boss that killed me the most times was Havoc Skytanker, but that was before I figured out it had armor.

If you luck out in your SEN, that he always provokes the little buggers and protects your party from their attacks and have good timing with your Paradigm Shift to avoid Neochu's Screech attack 12K damage, then yes, it can be an easy fight, but it's more dependent on luck than on skill. 

Overall it's pretty tough if you don't luck out, and pretty much everyone recognizes that the Neochus are amongst the hardest fights in the game. The only ones that I see harder than Neochus are the two Ratjavikias and the Long Gui. 

Oh no, I just Deathed the shit out of him. Very easy.

Shrouds break this game so much, I already beat Mission 63 and barely crossed 10K HP for my main 3 characters.

So, you used a cheap trick and you call the game easy? I see >_>

Why not try to fight him fair and square next time? No Death and no shrouds? 

Yeah, I just wanted the Growth Egg.

And I still call this game easy. When I face him for real (No Death or Shrouds) maybe he'll prove to be a threat.

Once my fighters cross 20K HP, I'll give him a shot. But I don't expect much.

I really don't care if I was cheap on those 2 missions, I just wanted the Genji Glove and Growth Egg.

 



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

dtewi said:
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
This game is rather easy, so nothing springs to mind that much.

Hrrmmmm...... Neochu? Well, that was pretty easy when I decided to stop focusing on the tiny bastards around him.

The boss that killed me the most times was Havoc Skytanker, but that was before I figured out it had armor.

If you luck out in your SEN, that he always provokes the little buggers and protects your party from their attacks and have good timing with your Paradigm Shift to avoid Neochu's Screech attack 12K damage, then yes, it can be an easy fight, but it's more dependent on luck than on skill. 

Overall it's pretty tough if you don't luck out, and pretty much everyone recognizes that the Neochus are amongst the hardest fights in the game. The only ones that I see harder than Neochus are the two Ratjavikias and the Long Gui. 

Oh no, I just Deathed the shit out of him. Very easy.

Shrouds break this game so much, I already beat Mission 63 and barely crossed 10K HP for my main 3 characters.

So, you used a cheap trick and you call the game easy? I see >_>

Why not try to fight him fair and square next time? No Death and no shrouds? 

Yeah, I just wanted the Growth Egg.

And I still call this game easy. When I face him for real (No Death or Shrouds) maybe he'll prove to be a threat.

Once my fighters cross 20K HP, I'll give him a shot. But I don't expect much.

I really don't care if I was cheap on those 2 missions, I just wanted the Genji Glove and Growth Egg.

 

I did him the hard way for the Growth Egg.

Fang had 12K, Light 10K and Vanille 10.5K. A single Screech was instant game over. 8 microchus swarming over any non-SEN, non-Protect character would mean instant kill for that character and to top it off, his pollen puts almost every major debuff in the game, including Daze. 3 Dazed characters without a SEN = Gameover. 

So yeah. He's tough. One of the toughest fights in any RPG this gen, if you don't cheap it out.

I mean, that's like saying your playing any game with a gameshark or action replay and then say that the game is easy. 



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lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
This game is rather easy, so nothing springs to mind that much.

Hrrmmmm...... Neochu? Well, that was pretty easy when I decided to stop focusing on the tiny bastards around him.

The boss that killed me the most times was Havoc Skytanker, but that was before I figured out it had armor.

If you luck out in your SEN, that he always provokes the little buggers and protects your party from their attacks and have good timing with your Paradigm Shift to avoid Neochu's Screech attack 12K damage, then yes, it can be an easy fight, but it's more dependent on luck than on skill. 

Overall it's pretty tough if you don't luck out, and pretty much everyone recognizes that the Neochus are amongst the hardest fights in the game. The only ones that I see harder than Neochus are the two Ratjavikias and the Long Gui. 

Oh no, I just Deathed the shit out of him. Very easy.

Shrouds break this game so much, I already beat Mission 63 and barely crossed 10K HP for my main 3 characters.

So, you used a cheap trick and you call the game easy? I see >_>

Why not try to fight him fair and square next time? No Death and no shrouds? 

Yeah, I just wanted the Growth Egg.

And I still call this game easy. When I face him for real (No Death or Shrouds) maybe he'll prove to be a threat.

Once my fighters cross 20K HP, I'll give him a shot. But I don't expect much.

I really don't care if I was cheap on those 2 missions, I just wanted the Genji Glove and Growth Egg.

 

I did him the hard way for the Growth Egg.

Fang had 12K, Light 10K and Vanille 10.5K. A single Screech was instant game over. 8 microchus swarming over any non-SEN, non-Protect character would mean instant kill for that character and to top it off, his pollen puts almost every major debuff in the game, including Daze. 3 Dazed characters without a SEN = Gameover. 

So yeah. He's tough. One of the toughest fights in any RPG this gen, if you don't cheap it out.

I mean, that's like saying your playing any game with a gameshark or action replay and then say that the game is easy. 

Fine, I'll try him right now. Without shrouds. How's that?

My stats are actually a bit lower, so I'll try him.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

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dtewi said:
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
This game is rather easy, so nothing springs to mind that much.

Hrrmmmm...... Neochu? Well, that was pretty easy when I decided to stop focusing on the tiny bastards around him.

The boss that killed me the most times was Havoc Skytanker, but that was before I figured out it had armor.

If you luck out in your SEN, that he always provokes the little buggers and protects your party from their attacks and have good timing with your Paradigm Shift to avoid Neochu's Screech attack 12K damage, then yes, it can be an easy fight, but it's more dependent on luck than on skill. 

Overall it's pretty tough if you don't luck out, and pretty much everyone recognizes that the Neochus are amongst the hardest fights in the game. The only ones that I see harder than Neochus are the two Ratjavikias and the Long Gui. 

Oh no, I just Deathed the shit out of him. Very easy.

Shrouds break this game so much, I already beat Mission 63 and barely crossed 10K HP for my main 3 characters.

So, you used a cheap trick and you call the game easy? I see >_>

Why not try to fight him fair and square next time? No Death and no shrouds? 

Yeah, I just wanted the Growth Egg.

And I still call this game easy. When I face him for real (No Death or Shrouds) maybe he'll prove to be a threat.

Once my fighters cross 20K HP, I'll give him a shot. But I don't expect much.

I really don't care if I was cheap on those 2 missions, I just wanted the Genji Glove and Growth Egg.

 

I did him the hard way for the Growth Egg.

Fang had 12K, Light 10K and Vanille 10.5K. A single Screech was instant game over. 8 microchus swarming over any non-SEN, non-Protect character would mean instant kill for that character and to top it off, his pollen puts almost every major debuff in the game, including Daze. 3 Dazed characters without a SEN = Gameover. 

So yeah. He's tough. One of the toughest fights in any RPG this gen, if you don't cheap it out.

I mean, that's like saying your playing any game with a gameshark or action replay and then say that the game is easy. 

Fine, I'll try him right now. Without shrouds. How's that?

My stats are actually a bit lower, so I'll try him.

Use Auto-acessories, even though they only last 55 seconds, it's enough to give you a head start to set up your own buffs. A SYN/MED/SEN paradigm is your friend here. 

After Buffing (Haste, Protect and Shell take priority, forget Bravery and Faith, you don't want to cause too much damage to the Neochu just yet), switch to COM/RAV/SEN and systematically proceed to destroy each Microchu. Ergo, summon if you feel that it's too overwhelming. Fang's Bahamut Gestalt attack should be enough to kill them at your level.

When you're faced with the Neochu alone, switch to SAB/SAB/SEN and give him Imperil. Afterwards, switch to RAV/RAV/SEN and work on building up the 888% chain.

The reason for not buffing your party with Bravery/Faith is that Neochu summons 8 more Microchus when he's at 50% HP and another 8 more when he's at 25%. So it's imperative that you break him before he gets to 50%. The best way too see if you're building up a nice chain is that when he hits 2M HP, you should have a 450% chain link. Make sure you buff your party when you're about to hit the stagger limit, (give Bravery and Faith now) and by the time it hits stagger (make sure you stagger him with a COM so that the stagger bar last twice as long), you should barely be scratching his 50% HP barrier.

Once he's staggered, it's just a matter of just whomping him until he dies. You can now use a COM/RAV/COM paradigm, as he won't be able to attack much, and given that you have Protect, his other attacks won't take as much damage, should they connect.

The attack that you should always, and I mean always, look out for is Screech. It's a mean SOB of an attack that can connect for 12K, which spells instant doom for any party without that much HP. It has a start up though.

Whenever you see him do a slight roar on the background (not an attack, just an animation), his next attack will be Screech. Switch immediatly to SEN/SEN/SEN when you see the roar, and you'll have a reduced damage to your party (5 - 6K), which makes the entire fight manageable, as it's the only trully damaging attack he has.  



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Cid is a bitch. Took me 1.5 hours.

Had trouble with 2nd form of Barthandulus and Proudclad, but went to upgrade my weapons like crazy and came back to whoop them very very hard. (I maxed my tier 2 weapons and whooped Proudclad's sorry ass really hard after he 1 shot my party when he did some stupid missile thingy non stop on my party).



PakChiuCheng said:
Cid is a bitch. Took me 1.5 hours.

Had trouble with 2nd form of Barthandulus and Proudclad, but went to upgrade my weapons like crazy and came back to whoop them very very hard. (I maxed my tier 2 weapons and whooped Proudclad's sorry ass really hard after he 1 shot my party when he did some stupid missile thingy non stop on my party).

His Relentless Assault was a true b**** of an attack. I had evolved my main party SEN trees on Pulse to level 1 and that saved me while fighting Proudclad, because SEN/SEN/SEN paradigm is a bliss in any scenario when a boss/enemy has that kind of insane attacks xD



Current PC Build

CPU - i7 8700K 3.7 GHz (4.7 GHz turbo) 6 cores OC'd to 5.2 GHz with Watercooling (Hydro Series H110i) | MB - Gigabyte Z370 HD3P ATX | Gigabyte GTX 1080ti Gaming OC BLACK 11G (1657 MHz Boost Core / 11010 MHz Memory) | RAM - Corsair DIMM 32GB DDR4, 2400 MHz | PSU - Corsair CX650M (80+ Bronze) 650W | Audio - Asus Essence STX II 7.1 | Monitor - Samsung U28E590D 4K UHD, Freesync, 1 ms, 60 Hz, 28"

Surprised there was so much trouble with the proudclad, kill both forms in no more than a minute



Xbbjf9s said:
Surprised there was so much trouble with the proudclad, kill both forms in no more than a minute

Probably you managed to kill both forms on the first Stagger right? 



Current PC Build

CPU - i7 8700K 3.7 GHz (4.7 GHz turbo) 6 cores OC'd to 5.2 GHz with Watercooling (Hydro Series H110i) | MB - Gigabyte Z370 HD3P ATX | Gigabyte GTX 1080ti Gaming OC BLACK 11G (1657 MHz Boost Core / 11010 MHz Memory) | RAM - Corsair DIMM 32GB DDR4, 2400 MHz | PSU - Corsair CX650M (80+ Bronze) 650W | Audio - Asus Essence STX II 7.1 | Monitor - Samsung U28E590D 4K UHD, Freesync, 1 ms, 60 Hz, 28"