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Piracy, which is worse?

Video Games 33 30.84%
 
Movies 16 14.95%
 
Music 43 40.19%
 
Softwares 15 14.02%
 
Total:107

Didn't Denmark, or maybe it was Spain, show that piracy actually bossted the overall economy of the country? I know economists in Spain are trying to fight real hard vs new laws that maybe coming up in Spain to prevent piracy. So maybe it's not "which one is worst" but "which one is best" would suit the title better.

 

OT: Software since there is so much of it, such as windows, office, photoshop, antivirii, etc. that it probably dwarfs the rest.



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Definitely music. People download plenty of songs here and there, and feels that its normal/common thing to do yet its stealing every time.

Piracy is at its worst when stealing is the norm.

At least when downloading movie, video games, & software people are more aware its illegal.




I tend to think of piracy as a demonstration that a business model is broken and is not offering people the services they want at a price they’re willing to pay. Usually, the company maintains this model because they believe there is more money for them in it; and they may be right, for example most people would buy Windows if it was $50 but Microsoft probably makes more money selling the quantity they do at $300.

With software I think that how you change your business model really depends on what market segment you’re in, and there is not a one size fits all option. With

music and movies I think they should pass on the manufacturing, distribution and retail savings onto the customer and encourage them to spend the same amount on music as they did before Napster while getting far more music; if you are averaging 1 Million people buying 1 album on itunes for $15 a month, you would be doing a lot better if you had 20 Million people buying 5 albums for $15 a month. At some point the price becomes low enough that the convenience of buying something legally is worth the cost.

With videogames I would suggest a modified shareware/episodic content business model. Basically, give someone a big chunk of the single-player mode (like 1/6 or 1/3 of the game), and a couple of multiplayer modes with single maps for random games, all for free or for a low price and then charge a reasonable price to buy the full game with additional modes (like co-op). The reason I say this is that in my experience most pirates don’t play more than an hour or two on the vast majority of their games, and I suspect that if they were still enjoying themselves at the end of your shareware version you could likely convert them into a sale.



V-r0cK said:
Definitely music. People download plenty of songs here and there, and feels that its normal/common thing to do yet its stealing every time.

Piracy is at its worst when stealing is the norm.

At least when downloading movie, video games, & software people are more aware its illegal.


I use to pirate music because it was just easier and didn't really think twice about it.  I knew it was wrong, but I didn't want to spend the money and downloading a song was just so easy.  The only frustrating part was when some dick would rename a Brittney Spears song to whatever I was trying to download.  >_<

Luckily iTunes came along and it was easier than BearShare or whatever program I was using and haven't pirated any music since.



stof said:
Pirate Software - download and use
Pirate movies - download and watch
Pirate music - download and listen
Pirate videogames - download and wait a sec I play games on a console, not a computer... How does this work?

Oh sure it might not be complicated to a lot of you, but videogame pirating doesn't have nearly the mainstream ease of use the other media forms do.

It's still pretty easy to download a PC game. All you need is a crack and you're set.



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V-r0cK said:
stealing

Piracy is copyrights infridgement, not stealing. Get your facts straight.



twesterm said:
Games have it bad, but only in PC games really. There is piracy on the consoles, but nowhere near as bad as the PC.

I dunno, DS, PSP and Wii all have it pretty bad too imo.



jarrod said:
twesterm said:
Games have it bad, but only in PC games really. There is piracy on the consoles, but nowhere near as bad as the PC.

I dunno, DS, PSP and Wii all have it pretty bad too imo.

They are pretty bad, but that extra step doesn't make it a huge deal, or at least as big as PC games.  It's beyond simple to pirate a PC game, it's at least requires a few more steps to pirate the console/handheld games.



twesterm said:
jarrod said:
twesterm said:
Games have it bad, but only in PC games really. There is piracy on the consoles, but nowhere near as bad as the PC.

I dunno, DS, PSP and Wii all have it pretty bad too imo.

They are pretty bad, but that extra step doesn't make it a huge deal, or at least as big as PC games.  It's beyond simple to pirate a PC game, it's at least requires a few more steps to pirate the console/handheld games.

Yeah true, Wii/PSP need firmware hacks and with DS you need to buy a card.  Still, it's pretty widespread, as bad as PS1/DC pirating was imo.



I say music. To get a movie, I have to buy a disc or deal with my local bootlegger. To get a game, I --well, I have no idea what the hell I'm supposed to do. To get a song, I just log onto a website and download it to me PSP, mp3 player, or what have you. Pirating music is WAAAAAAY too easy.

So, the music industry has it worst. Pirating any of the three is equally bad and will get you sent to hell. God loves Miley Cyrus and doesn't approve of people pirating her movies, music, or games.