I was wondering when we were going to get a Wii-too or "Sony just copies everything from Nintendo." Took a little longer than I thought, actually. Seriously, though Galaki, if you're not going to add anything to the convo, except for "fanboy talking points", get out.
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Doesn't really give my anymore hope in Natal considering Nintendo and Sony both passed up on the tech. But who knows, maybe MS can pull it off. I do know that one developer, of the record, told IGN that he thought it was "shit", and wasn't giving him the performance MS promised. For MS sake, he better be the only one. Otherwise, I can see it being an over-hyped accessory that may die quickly. If that does happen, I don't see it ruining MS name completely, but it won't help them either.
As far as Move goes, it should see some success, as it's much easier to bring in the core gamer, as well. They may not bring in as many casual gamers as they want, but then can always fall on the core gamers if that happens.