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Was Leo-J right about the PS3 price-cut effect?

Yes, PS3 got back in the game on sept 09 158 47.88%
 
No, PS3 is still being outsold by Wii 26 7.88%
 
No, As long as its still ... 38 11.52%
 
Yes, PS3 has great sales and games now 82 24.85%
 
There was a price cut? 10 3.03%
 
Wii/PS3/Xbox 360 = D00M3D! 16 4.85%
 
Total:330
Ping_ii on 27 March 2010
Boutros said:
fighter said:

It only showed how PS3's problem doesn't come from its' entry price or its' size.


So no, not only is it not a comeback it is proof the whole PS3 business model was poorly designed to begin with.

So now the PS3 Slim effect was bad? O_o

LOL!! well I dont even bother with this person cause most of his post when you analyse it is just saying "ps3 sucks".



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Icyedge on 27 March 2010
Ping_ii said:
Boutros said:
fighter said:

It only showed how PS3's problem doesn't come from its' entry price or its' size.


So no, not only is it not a comeback it is proof the whole PS3 business model was poorly designed to begin with.

So now the PS3 Slim effect was bad? O_o

LOL!! well I dont even bother with this person cause most of his post when you analyse it is just saying "ps3 sucks".

lol, agreed! Strange how you can hate something to the point where you completely lost your common sense and comprehension.



fighter on 28 March 2010
CGI-Quality said:
fighter said:
CGI-Quality said:
fighter said:
CGI-Quality said:

Depends on the context of the word: Comeback.

- Is it now a viable machine with a healthy library at an affordable price: Yes.

does a healthy library or a decent price have anything to do with a comeback ? no

- Is it outselling it's closest rival on the road to take 2nd Place: Yes.

now that's a very slow comeback, and there are many turns ahead on that road

- Is it bringing money to the company who so ever poured billions into it's research/construction: Not yet.

so by that context : no

- Does it offer anything different from it's closest rival to be considered fairly different: Yes, though it took a while.

what does that have to do with a comeback ?

- Will it be as successful as it's two older brothers: (PS1) - Probably not. (PS2) - No.

at least we agree it's no coming back to that

If you put all those in place, it has made good headway and has become a healthy machine with a more than stellar line-up of titles. It's done itself a service by jumping out of that dark hole we called "doomed". However, it will fail at capturing the success of past PlayStation consoles, which in turn is it's biggest flukes of all.

exactly, the slim + price cut had a positive effect (how could it be otherwise?)

From a personal standpoint, it's one of the most enjoyable pieces of technology that I've ever had the pleasure of acquiring. But from a business standpoint, it hasn't made strong enough progress to be considered a full blown: "Comeback Kid" just yet.

Just my opinion.

 

- So a healthy library of a console that was deemed "the system with no games" isn't considered a comback

not in this thread no. Here it's about the slimming of the PS3 and the cutting of its' entry price. And before you start protesting, your first sentence being "Depends on the context of the word: Comeback" you defined yourself you were answering relatively to Leo-Js criterias.

- Ok pal. Also, it's price has everything to do with a comback. You think it could have made ANY headway at the price it was?

have i stated otherwise ? read more carefully please

- Many people didn't see the PS3 as any different than the 360, and so saw no need to buy it. Therefore, differentiating itself was a need. You can't make a comeback and be pretty much the same as your main competition.

 have i stated otherwise ? read more carefully please

My first sentence was something you obviously ignored/don't comprehend. Depending on the context, it is/isn't a comeback. If you were so bent on proving your distaste for the PS3, you would know that I agreed that it's has made no significant comeback.

Let's takeyour first sentence again :  "Depends on the context of the word: Comeback"

What depends on the context of the word comeback ? The answer to the OP's question.

Therefore, most of your points being attemps to define contexts of comebacks in general instead of answers to the op's question itself you are the one contradicting your own first sentence.

 

My goodness.....

"does a healthy library or decent price have anything to do with a comeback? no"

That would be stating otherwise. Read more carefully please.

As for the talk of differentiating, you asked what it had to do with a comeback: "what does that have to do with a comeback"?

You were given an answer. It seems the person who's comprehension is in question here is you.

You missed the point of my initial post entirely though. I agreed that the PS3 hasn't made a significant comeback. Drop the condescending approach and pay attention.

 

Again, you have to consider the kind of comeback we are talking about (the one understood by your own first sentence if you read more carefully).

The way you desperately try to find a way around your own mistake(s) is kind of laughable and scary at the same time.

 



binary solo on 28 March 2010
JGarret said:
@binary solo

When does fiscal year 2011 for Sony end?...by then, how many PS3s will have been sold worldwide, you think?

FY 2011 ends 31 March 2011. I don't make predictions for how many consoles are going to get sold 1 year from now. Heck I don't like making predicitions for how many consoles are going to be sold next week. Having said that I think PS3 can have another 13 million year at least, if they do things right.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

greenmedic88 on 28 March 2010

Price seems to be less of a game winning issue for the Xbox 360 than some are making it out to be.

The $199 Arcade was the most significant price restructuring back in 2008.

While a $199 Xbox with HDD would be great for consumers, it would still be a $199 Xbox.

Same goes for a $199 Arcade with Natal.

If you shop around, you can actually buy an Xbox for less in many markets and yet sales still stand where they are.

A $99 Arcade seems improbable, but it would sell a lot of units. My guess would be by the time it hits $150, MS may consider just cutting the SKU altogether.


In reference to the PS3, it's been posting significantly higher YoY gains than either the Xbox or the Wii. Obviously, you can't erase a multimillion unit deficit in under a year. It will continue to post YoY sales gains on the road to a mass market friendly $199 price.

But, by the time the market sees a $199 PS3, the Wii may be priced as low as $99, which is the price at which any household even remotely interested in gaming will have one.



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placidcasual on 28 March 2010
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
gamelover2000 said:

Leo-J said: I predict a 100$ Price cut on the PS3 (at that time 400$) will make it have the biggest comeback ever!

 

Now personally I'd like to know what he thinks about it nowadays.

 

So vote and please post

Beating the Xbox360 may be called a comeback.

Taking the wii may be called a biggest comeback ever.

The PS3 has not done either. It's just selling a lot better. And bragging about a forced 100$ pricecut like it was part of some plan, is rather silly. Why do people always forget that Sony's hand was forced - big time for Sony's part! Like Nintendo's was last year of Microsoft's before that.

In my opinion the PS3 isn't making a comeback.  

Check out the thread showing the weekly difference between total sales of the pS3 and 360.



binary solo on 28 March 2010
Icyedge said:
binary solo said:
When you think about it Wii is the biggest come back ever.
However, within a single generation the way I see it is this:

To be comeback ever your sales need to be in the doldrums with a lot (if not the majority) of people saying things like "This console is going to spell the exit of company A from the gaming industry" or "Company A could go bankrupt because of this console". And other such predictions of doom and destruction. Was PS3 subject to these predicitons? YES. Before the price cut PS3 was a very real possibility of finish its generation with worse sales than the gamecube, which is the worst selling console out of all the consoles among the 3 current console makers.

So the PS3 was in the right position for a comeback.

Next, your sales need to shift up a gear or 2 to permanently come out of the sales doldrums. Well it did that with quite a bang and it appears for the time being to be a permanent sales shift. This is contrary to what many people were predicting that teh price cut w

Good points there.

Dang, you had to quote the semi-finished, accidentally posted, needing to be edited version of my post. The final version is a bit longer and makes a few more points.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

milkyjoe on 28 March 2010

Right now it's a potential comeback, and no more.

It's like being 4-0 down in a football (soccer) game, and pulling it back to 4-1. There is still a lot of work to be done until the comeback is complete.



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Showertea on 28 March 2010

Going from a distant 3rd to a competitor for 2nd is a 'comeback'? No. The PS3 still got outsold by the Wii, a week after FF13 came out in the west, which is also the same week GdoW 3 came out in the west, while the Wii had no major releases. That's not a comeback. That's just sad.



Wii has more 20 million sellers than PS3 has 5 million sellers.

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Siko1989 on 28 March 2010
leo-j said:
The comeback was originally to overtake the wii, which it wasn't having trouble with until the wii decided to get a price cut.. and then came new super mario bros wii..

this is the biggest comeback for a 3rd place console regardless though, but not as big as it could have been, I honestly underestimated what the competitors would do.

meh the wii had to have a price cut eventually anyway i mean it was due for it considering it hold that price for 3 years