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^^^

A generic mobile section would be a great idea.

My brother has an ipod touch with peggle installed. I know plenty of other people in a similar position.



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A few points:

1. This is software revenue in the US. It's not hardware, and it's not unit sales, and it's not worldwide. Just so we're clear on what we're talking about.

2. This report is put out by Flurry. They have a vested interest in the iPhone platform, so take your sodium.

3. Is PSP really that dead? Can the iPhone have his stuff (by which I mean forum)?



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TheRealMafoo said:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/03/22/iphone_ipod_touch_carve_19_gaming_share_from_sony_nintendo.html

When are we going to get an Apple presence on this site?

And before you say "they are not real games" remember, we have a DS page :p


Wouldn't that chart be a better reason for getting RID of the PSP presence?



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Chrizum is the best thing to happen to the internet, Period.

Serves me right for challenging his sales predictions!

Bet with dsisister44: Red Steel 2 will sell 1 million within it's first 365 days of sales.

How do they differentiate between other aps and gaming aps out of interest? It can be a very blurry line.



lol.. this is the first time I see therealmafoo posting something game related... and he still post it in offtopic..

OT: I'm all for an mobile platform section.. but the hate here for App store game is uncanny... even with cool SE games coming on it people just hate it.. http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=104340



 

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RolStoppable said:
@kowenicki

That won't happen unless Nintendo is dumb enough to start to believe in this idea. Convergence is a reoccuring dream and the market rejects it every time.

Not really. Convergence is slowly killing the iPod as a music player only. That's a major reason why Apple has moved their product line towards mobile phones and pocket computers, because other such devices were offering media functionality and iPod growth was stalling.

Convergence often fails with large appliances because it's easy to store several specialized devices in a house, and you often want to dedicate a particular space to a particular function anyway (e.g. PC in the office to work, media player in the living room to watch with friends), so the offer of an all-in-one can actually reduce value. Not so in the pocket space, where people don't want to line their pockets with a cell phone, PDA, media player, and handheld console. Being able to pack all those features into one mobile device offers a special value that you don't get by converging the household counterparts of those devices.



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kowenicki said:
Why are people being aggressive to this idea? threatened?

I'm no lover of Apple, but I have found myself playing a few games on my wife's iphone and my daughters ipod touch recently.

It is only going to get bigger.... Surely in the long term convergence will mean the death of handhelds as we know them. It will be a phone/mp3/mp4/gaming device all in one.


won't it?

I personally believe very strongly in this scenario.

Although Rol and other Nintendo fans don't want to, and believe it won't happen, I don't see it being unavoidable. As mobile phones add more gaming features to them, they will continue to take over the gaming market.

As stated, the iPhone has garnered about $500m in gaming revenue in 2009, compared to the DS at ~$2.2 billion. Thing is, the iPhone had about the same increase in terms of revenue - about $400m vs. the year prior, so that is a very good comparison on revenue.

Android is getting bigger, as it jumped 50% in revenue in Jan-Feb, and is looking to have an even better March....Still very small compared to the iPhone, it will become a big force in 2-3 years.

I've been saying it for almost a year now, and I will continue to say it:

Handheld, dedicated gaming systems will die off. If the Nintendo 3DS rumors are true, it will be Nintendo's last dedicated gaming handheld.

We've seen the DS become more phone-like with the DSi's ability to download games, do some web stuff, and have a camera on it. It has tried to take on some of the things that make phones popular. Eventually, it will look too much like a phone, and Nintendo will make the switch and make a phone-capable DS and go that route - probably by putting a Nintendo market on the Android market, or create their own OS.

Either way, it will happen. There are too many factors against keeping physical media for handhelds. And as Famousringo said, the iPod is nearly dead, as Apple has converged the ideas from the iPod into the iPod touch which is a call-disabled iPhone. It retains all the web and gaming capabilities of the iPhone, with the audio/video abilities of the iPods. It is happening in the media field, why not the entertainment field?

 

Until then, I'll keep enjoying the fact my Android has more classic gaming titles on it than VC and the DS combined.

 



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Rath said:
How do they differentiate between other aps and gaming aps out of interest? It can be a very blurry line.

Products are sorted by app type (gaming or app) and then by sub-genre (like weather, utilities, strategy, action, ect). I would assume they took surveys to obtain estimates on sales data.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

@mrstickball. The reason why it might not happen in other fields is because in that media the only person Apple was really competing with was themselves.



I say the 3DS is a defensive manoeuvre to the iPhone/iTouch as well as Android etc. The thing which is preventing convergence is battery life. Try playing games on your iPhone and have it last for more than a few days at best standby, it'd be worse if you're making a lot of calls.



Tease.