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Joel12345 on 18 March 2010

Natal seems ok Move seems ok
They're not going to revolutionary
No controls seems a bit off
Move...IDK cant says its like the wii cuss the video proves me otherwise



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heruamon on 18 March 2010
steverhcp02 said:
heruamon said:
steverhcp02 said:
heruamon said:
 

Don't you have to own and use a 360 for it to alter your life?  Anyway, many posters on this site think it's just a copy of eyepet anyway, so no worries...

@ bolded, No i dont, apparently i know more about natal than you do.

I dont care what other posters say, this thread isnt about what other posters say, im commenting on every single person thats in the "business" who apparently knows these vast great mystical secrets about what natal can accomplish telling us its the second coming and stopping there, never elaborating and telling us how it will be implemented, how it will be the best tech of 2010, how it will "revolutionize" Thats what im commenting on.

We have a kick ball game. We have a burnout demo that is atrotious for controlling a finite game like burnout which requires micro controlling, if youve ever played it try accomplishing any race in that game or hitting a billboard off an adjacent ramp on the freeway driving through oncoming traffic. I dont see it, i hear it, i read it hollow comments, but i dont see it.

I'm glad you've hada chance to check out Natal...I'm hoping to attend E3 this year to get a first hand experience before I comment on it's impact.  I'd rather take a wait and see approach, then to sling mud at something I've not experienced first hand, but hey...that's just me.  Anyway, I'm as skeptic about how Natal will be implemented, but I certianly see great potential in the tech...

Im not commenting on its impact im commenting on the lack of ellaboration on everyone saying it WILL have a big impact. Sorry, but you dont need to play somethign to see controls are offputting (speaking of burnout only), anyone that defends the burnout demo as quality is not viewing anything objectively.

I really dont think asking for quality ellaboration from everyone trying to sell this product on hype is mudslinging.

If you think this demo sucks of burnout paradise sucks...then we definitely have different standards:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaYtivpSQMk

The guy is controlling the game with NO PHYSICAL CONTROLLER...and people are moving in the background...that's meh to you from a technical standpoint?  Errr....Okey Dokey.



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shuraiya on 19 March 2010
heruamon said:
steverhcp02 said:
heruamon said:
steverhcp02 said:
heruamon said:
 

Don't you have to own and use a 360 for it to alter your life?  Anyway, many posters on this site think it's just a copy of eyepet anyway, so no worries...

@ bolded, No i dont, apparently i know more about natal than you do.

I dont care what other posters say, this thread isnt about what other posters say, im commenting on every single person thats in the "business" who apparently knows these vast great mystical secrets about what natal can accomplish telling us its the second coming and stopping there, never elaborating and telling us how it will be implemented, how it will be the best tech of 2010, how it will "revolutionize" Thats what im commenting on.

We have a kick ball game. We have a burnout demo that is atrotious for controlling a finite game like burnout which requires micro controlling, if youve ever played it try accomplishing any race in that game or hitting a billboard off an adjacent ramp on the freeway driving through oncoming traffic. I dont see it, i hear it, i read it hollow comments, but i dont see it.

I'm glad you've hada chance to check out Natal...I'm hoping to attend E3 this year to get a first hand experience before I comment on it's impact.  I'd rather take a wait and see approach, then to sling mud at something I've not experienced first hand, but hey...that's just me.  Anyway, I'm as skeptic about how Natal will be implemented, but I certianly see great potential in the tech...

Im not commenting on its impact im commenting on the lack of ellaboration on everyone saying it WILL have a big impact. Sorry, but you dont need to play somethign to see controls are offputting (speaking of burnout only), anyone that defends the burnout demo as quality is not viewing anything objectively.

I really dont think asking for quality ellaboration from everyone trying to sell this product on hype is mudslinging.

If you think this demo sucks of burnout paradise sucks...then we definitely have different standards:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaYtivpSQMk

The guy is controlling the game with NO PHYSICAL CONTROLLER...and people are moving in the background...that's meh to you from a technical standpoint?  Errr....Okey Dokey.

 

Actually, the demo is not impressive in the slightest. All it shows is that the tech works on a very basic level, which is fine for now. The controls are not very responsive (which is essential for a racing game) and it doesn't always pick up gestures. As for the people in the background waving - It's not a big deal. If you notice, all those people never step into the grey circle on the floor when they wave. Natal's camera is able to judge distance, so It's neither surprising nor impressive that it can restrict it's sensitivity to a certain distance from the camera (it might even be ajustable by the user based on different games). The demo is only a proof of concept. I don't think It's supposed to be impressive - at least I hope not.



jneul on 19 March 2010

I think natal does have potential, but I think i needs to be developed further, all I see right now is hype, and negative feedback, which means it needs more work maybe Microsoft should delay natal and work on it some more.



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Cueil on 19 March 2010
kowenicki said:
I wonder if the Naughty Dog guy is going off just what he has seen or if he has had hands on time behind doors?


I"m not sure... he was kind of mum on that issue... but I am sure he's messed around with it... he's probably dealing with Microsoft right now with Windows Phone 7 coming out and him being a iPhone developer... with XNA we could see some interesting stuff from him soon



 
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Cueil on 19 March 2010
Lord Flashheart said:
People do know that Natal will be compatable with the PC?
you don't need to buy a 360 and natal to use it.
Like many have said I'm interested in what the weird little genius' on t'internet will do with it.


I can't wait to see what the XNA guys do with it



 
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Squilliam on 19 March 2010

Natal is an important step, we've got so many different companies converging on different technologies in this industry and whilst not all are related to consoles, there are many which will effect the future of the console gaming industry quite significantly.

Natal is just one technology of many which are showing promise. The real question is how will the market react, not industry observers really. Further to that the question can also be extended to what kind of partnerships will we see and how will the Xbox console of 2014 be delivered? Could we see an Xbox 360 TV in the next couple of years for example?



Tease.

welshbloke on 19 March 2010

"360 TV"
I am still waiting for that little puppy from BT who talked this up like years ago now.

Natal is intresting from a 360 prospective as well due to what else may change to accomodate it. The slim 360 for example or a improved spec model 360 in general. I think Natal will be pivotal in reinventing and reinvigorating the 360 to allow for the increased lifespan.



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andremop on 19 March 2010

I agree. It may be cool to use Natal as an interface between you and others.

As for gaming, I really really think it's impossible for it to work.
Hope I'm wrong...



Garnett on 19 March 2010

OMG WHY IS THIS IS THE MS SECTION??????? NAUGHTY DOG IS A SONY COMPANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

/lol im joking



It all depends on how much MS sells it for. 

 

 



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