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Kasz216 on 17 March 2010
theprof00 said:
Kasz216 said:
Boutros said:
Kasz216 said:
Boutros said:
Most reviewers claim Final Fantasy XIII is linear and stuff like that during the first half of the game but it gets better after that.

And yes I believe a game needs to be completed in order to review it. I think it's quite normal really.

It looks like he got pretty far based on the achivements.  It's not like he stopped during the first half of the game.

But let me get this straight.  Lets say you start playing a game, where the controls are so bad... you can barely chohesivly control your character.  Do you believe it's the reviewers duty to play through that to complete a game, when he KNOWS the game is going to get a shit review anyway?

After a while if a game is bad enough there is NOTHING that is going to save it.

Some people hated The Sixth Sense until they saw the end.

 

I still think it's an obligation for a reviewer to complete the game he's reviewing no matter how bad it is.

 

Edit: Yeah like Werekitten said, he should then mention what he's reviewing if he didn't complete it.

If it takes the last minute to make a movie good... it's not really a good movie.

If you say "the last chapter was eggregious rubbish", you'd better have played it. The climax and denouement are some of the most important parts of any narrative.


See, that's just a reading comprhension error on your part. If I were to say after playing level 3 of SMB2 "that last chapter sucked, I'm done with this game"... I would be saying that I was done with it. The fact that he indicated that he was done with the game after said chapter should be all the indication that you need that he wasn't talking about the final chapter.

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theprof00 on 17 March 2010
Kasz216 said:
theprof00 said:
Kasz216 said:
Boutros said:
Kasz216 said:
Boutros said:
Most reviewers claim Final Fantasy XIII is linear and stuff like that during the first half of the game but it gets better after that.

And yes I believe a game needs to be completed in order to review it. I think it's quite normal really.

It looks like he got pretty far based on the achivements.  It's not like he stopped during the first half of the game.

But let me get this straight.  Lets say you start playing a game, where the controls are so bad... you can barely chohesivly control your character.  Do you believe it's the reviewers duty to play through that to complete a game, when he KNOWS the game is going to get a shit review anyway?

After a while if a game is bad enough there is NOTHING that is going to save it.

Some people hated The Sixth Sense until they saw the end.

 

I still think it's an obligation for a reviewer to complete the game he's reviewing no matter how bad it is.

 

Edit: Yeah like Werekitten said, he should then mention what he's reviewing if he didn't complete it.

If it takes the last minute to make a movie good... it's not really a good movie.

If you say "the last chapter was eggregious rubbish", you'd better have played it. The climax and denouement are some of the most important parts of any narrative.

See, that's just a reading comprhension error on your part. If I were to say after playing level 3 of SMB2 "that last chapter sucked, I'm done with this game"... I would be saying that I was done with it. The fact that he indicated that he was done with the game after said chapter should be all the indication that you need that he wasn't talking about the final chapter.

Ah, I didn't see the "that" there. Still, though, it's not exactly clear he stopped while playing. Oh well, I don't really care anyway. I already have more than enough issues with him.



twesterm on 17 March 2010
Wonktonodi said:
twesterm said:

Again, forgive my ignorance since I don't really visit the compare trophies screen, but it looks like he has a lot of trophies. I can't tell if those one below it or locked or not since I don't really know what to look for but he has 63% of the trophies.

That's 22 of the 35 trophies and when 13 of them look to be story trophies it seems like he could have completed most of the game.

I know in most 360 games you can finish with anywhere from 400-600 points so I would assume trophies would be the same deal.

That would be the % he is through  the next "level" it's about total trophy count and not game specific. 

Ah, just goes to show how much I look at that screen.  :-p

And I forgot to mention, while I think it's alright for reviewers to review games they haven't finished, I agree that they should mention that they didn't bother with the rest of the game.



 

Lafiel on 17 March 2010
twesterm said:

Again, forgive my ignorance since I don't really visit the compare trophies screen, but it looks like he has a lot of trophies. I can't tell if those one below it or locked or not since I don't really know what to look for but he has 63% of the trophies.

That's 22 of the 35 trophies and when 13 of them look to be story trophies it seems like he could have completed most of the game.

I know in most 360 games you can finish with anywhere from 400-600 points so I would assume trophies would be the same deal.

no, he doesn't have 63% of FF13 trophies, he is 63% into PSN trophy lvl 6

but he is only missing one story trophy (which of course comes after beating the final boss), so it's save to assume he played it to the end

 



Mr Khan on 17 March 2010

He should at least have made it clear in his interview that he had not finished it.



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Garcian Smith on 17 March 2010

Hey look, that game reviewer has different opinions than 99% of other game reviewers out there! Screw dissenting voices, I want people to uniformly praise my favorite games.

Also playing 30 hours of a 40 hour game (or however much he played of FFXIII) is more than enough time to tell whether or not a game sucks.



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 -Sean Malstrom

 

 

Spagoodle on 17 March 2010

You guys should do a bit of research before you talk shit.

Reviewers play games on debug system, where the data is sent to them. Most games are played without a disk and without trophies and achievments. This blogger is just a ignorant dumbass.



Garcian Smith on 17 March 2010
Spagoodle said:

You guys should do a bit of research before you talk shit.

Reviewers play games on debug system, where the data is sent to them. Most games are played without a disk and without trophies and achievments. This blogger is just a ignorant dumbass.

But... but but... someone insulted my favorite games! On the Internet!



"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."

 -Sean Malstrom

 

 

rocketpig on 17 March 2010

Oh noes! He played ~90% of a game and didn't like it! Oh noes!

And a big LOL to anyone that brings up his Deadly Premonition review as proof of anything. Sarcasm is lost on some people.




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mrstickball on 17 March 2010

To be fair, as far we can tell, VGC lets reviews onto the site without proof that they've finished the game:

http://profile.mygamercard.net/CaptainHavok80

He reviewed deadly premonition and only had about 50% of the game completed, as per his gamercard. Now, he could have beaten it offline and never gone back online, but its still a little odd.

As for the arguments...I'm going on the side of 'if 95% of the game is a 4/10, I don't see how the other 5% can bring it to a 9/10'.

Of course, thats just me. I want to play FFXIII to see how bad it really is. Of course, I gotta get through the majesty that is XII first :-p



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