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Onyxmeth on 15 March 2010
ElGranCabeza said:
Onyxmeth said:

I think there is some sort of control Microsoft has over Gears of War. To what degree I don't know, but seeing as how Gears 2 still hasn't had a PC release, which falls in line with Microsoft's first party lineup not having them, there does seem to be some sort of hold there. Otherwise why would Epic not put this on the PC utilizing a different publisher?

Mark Rein himself just said they own it and can do whatever they want with it. That means MS nas no sort of control over Gears of Wars. What most likely happened with Gears 2 was MS paid Epic to keep the game only on 360. That contract may or may not have expired, if it hasn't then the answer why it isn't on PC is obvious, but if it has then either Epic doesn't think it's financially worth it to release it on PC after all this time or they're waiting to make an announcement and make it a true director's cut, because they already had a GOTY edition, and honestly no one would buy a 2 year old game for full price so they would need to put something extra there.

I'm saying that this can't be worked into the argument that Gears is and has always been Epic's to do with what they want. Having a contract with MS is MS having some sort of control over the product, which was my point. Since you haven't been able to come up with any other answer as to why Epic wouldn't release it on PC other than an agreement with MS, then that shows that Gears has not been Epic's to do with what they want. Whether the next game is under these same restrictions is yet to be seen, but it's pretty easy to tell that Gears 2 was definitely not entirely in Epic's control, or if it was at some point they gave some control over to Microsoft for whatever reason. From Epic's standpoint I'm sure they would have loved to release it on the PC.



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ssj12 on 15 March 2010
Onyxmeth said:

I think there is some sort of control Microsoft has over Gears of War. To what degree I don't know, but seeing as how Gears 2 still hasn't had a PC release, which falls in line with Microsoft's first party lineup not having them, there does seem to be some sort of hold there. Otherwise why would Epic not put this on the PC utilizing a different publisher?

Mark actually commented on this. He stated it segmented Gear's market and made 360 owners feel left out because the PC version of the first was much improved visually and had added content.

So Epic decided this, not Microsoft, they can always go back on what they said and put Gears 2 on PC at a later date with UE4 or at least UE3.5 w/DX11 support.



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mirgro on 15 March 2010

I hope they go back to what made them famous and make an Unreal game that doesn't suck. I think the last Unreal game that didn't suck was the one in 2004.



Onyxmeth on 16 March 2010
ssj12 said:
Onyxmeth said:

I think there is some sort of control Microsoft has over Gears of War. To what degree I don't know, but seeing as how Gears 2 still hasn't had a PC release, which falls in line with Microsoft's first party lineup not having them, there does seem to be some sort of hold there. Otherwise why would Epic not put this on the PC utilizing a different publisher?

Mark actually commented on this. He stated it segmented Gear's market and made 360 owners feel left out because the PC version of the first was much improved visually and had added content.

So Epic decided this, not Microsoft, they can always go back on what they said and put Gears 2 on PC at a later date with UE4 or at least UE3.5 w/DX11 support.

Mark can say what he wants. He's obviously going to rather put himself in a good light by saying it was his decision and not Microsoft's. However, those reasons don't coincide with any realistic approach Epic should care about. Those seem like the exact reasons MS doesn't want it on the PC. They don't apply to Epic at all. Epic should care about appeasing long time PC fans, building the fanbase of a franchise they created and already put on the PC once, showcasing the engine said game runs on to help sell it to developers on the PC, and maximize sales. Gears 2 didn't sell better than Gears did, and that's just the 360 versions. That doesn't count the lost sales from not releasing it on the PC at all. So if this was the plan to not segment the fanbase so it could maximize sales on the 360, it backfired heavily.



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themanwithnoname on 16 March 2010

^ You realize Gears 2 is still tracking ahead of Gears 1 right? I don't get why people are constantly pointing that out. It'll pass Gears 1.



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O-D-C on 16 March 2010

Wii version please? (unlikely but hey Ill try anyway)



Onyxmeth on 16 March 2010
themanwithnoname said:
^ You realize Gears 2 is still tracking ahead of Gears 1 right? I don't get why people are constantly pointing that out. It'll pass Gears 1.

You realize that the gap between the two games when they're lined up against each other keeps getting smaller right? At this point in it's lifespan, Gears was selling more than Gears 2 is. Gears 2 had a much larger release, and has steadily declined in head to head sales since then. At best it's going to match Gears' sales or slightly surpass it. Gears 2 hasn't shown the ability to generate the same tail it's predecessor did. This doesn't suggest leaving a PC version out was a smart idea on Epic's behalf if in fact it was their decision. 



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jarrod on 16 March 2010
RolStoppable said:
Gears of War 3 Wii exclusive to show off the Unreal Engine 3 running on Wii.

Gears of War Trilogy for Wii HD launch in 2012.   All 3 games on one Blu-Ray disc.



themanwithnoname on 16 March 2010
Onyxmeth said:
themanwithnoname said:
^ You realize Gears 2 is still tracking ahead of Gears 1 right? I don't get why people are constantly pointing that out. It'll pass Gears 1.

You realize that the gap between the two games when they're lined up against each other keeps getting smaller right? At this point in it's lifespan, Gears was selling more than Gears 2 is. Gears 2 had a much larger release, and has steadily declined in head to head sales since then. At best it's going to match Gears' sales or slightly surpass it. Gears 2 hasn't shown the ability to generate the same tail it's predecessor did. This doesn't suggest leaving a PC version out was a smart idea on Epic's behalf if in fact it was their decision. 


I'm pretty sure they said the sales didn't justify them doing another PC version.



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squall747 on 16 March 2010

I highly doubt it.