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Seece on 13 March 2010
CGI-Quality said:
dirkd2323 said:
Halo Reach is not going to sale better then MW2 that set records, and is on both PS3 and 360, that is delusional . I like Halo a lot, its one of my fav, but people are talking crazy talk.

Seece was talking strictly the 360 version though.

Yup, Reach will never outsell MW2 across all platforms, nobody's crazy enough to think that.



 

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Solid_Raiden on 13 March 2010

All I know is that Reach will be a success. I'm still not sold on it selling better LTD then Halo 3 though. Halo 3 is the most important game of the 360's lifespan. Everyone bought it. If you bought a 360 then you bought Halo 3. There's no way you can expect the same from Reach. I believe it will sell less, but not much less. It's a high quality product and has halo in the name. Why Reach has to be the best selling game of all time to be a scuccess with some people amazes me. It will probably do 10 million.




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ymeaga1n on 13 March 2010
BenVTrigger said:
ymeaga1n said:
themanwithnoname said:
ymeaga1n said:
Won't happen. Really guys, I'm a x360 fan and your predictions are making all of us look bad. I can give you a nice list of a bunch of games that didn't outsell the game they followed on the PS2 even though install base was doubled.

MGS2 was released when there was 15.5m PS2 install base and sold 5.58m copies. MSG3 (the prequel like Reach will be) had a 73.5m PS2 install base and only sold 4m copies.

Lemme put it this way... a friend of mine and I are not that interested in getting Halo Reach. YOU'RE TELLING ME that you are going to find 2 people that DIDN'T buy Halo 3 that are going to go buy Halo Reach???

Come on, lets get real. It's a prequel!




Well, if you wanna get technical. I have Halo 3 used, so when I buy Halo: Reach first day, I will be included in those figures whereas I'm not in Halo 3's. Also, Halo 2 > Halo 1. Just because Microsoft has a lot of Halo games does not mean everyone who could possibly be interested in Halo has already bought them.

Likewise I will likely buy Halo Reach used. I'm not hyped on Halo Reach like I was on Halo 3. Halo 3 was the shit..."Finish the Fight!". Halo Reach is....meh...that book I read about Reach that doesn't include Master Chief and I already know the outcome of. Trust me, there are plenty of people like me that aren't hyped for Reach.

And i'm pretty sure it's a safe to say that people who purchased Halo 3 used aren't going to be in long lines on launch day for Reach. 

Just for the record you do realize this is the Story of Noble Team and not Blue Team correct?  In other words this game has litteraly nothing to do with the book other than it takes place during the Fall of Reach.  We know what happened to John, Kelly, Linda and the rest but we have no idea what happened to Noble 6, Carter, Jorge and the rest of Team Noble.  This story is complely new and untold.

More like the book had shit to do with Reach. Never talks about what happens on Reach just that all the spartans aside from MC went there to fight. But since Reach fell and no other spartans appeared in any of the Halo games we can assume they died. 

Noble 6? Carter? Jorge? As a fan that played all 3 Halo game and read some books I don't even know who the heck those ppl are. And I've been on vgc for a years. I like to think I know more about game characters than casual FPS fans. If it's a new and untold story...shouldn't we be expecting sales along the lines of Halo 1??




BenVTrigger on 13 March 2010

@Solid_Raiden

I don't see anyone in here saying that if Reach doesn't sell as much as Halo 3 it won't be a success, just there is alot of evidence to support higher sales for Reach.



yo_john117 on 13 March 2010
leo-j said:
yo_john117 said:
ymeaga1n said:
Won't happen. Really guys, I'm a x360 fan and your predictions are making all of us look bad. I can give you a nice list of a bunch of games that didn't outsell the game they followed on the PS2 even though install base was doubled.

MGS2 was released when there was 15.5m PS2 install base and sold 5.58m copies. MSG3 (the prequel like Reach will be) had a 73.5m PS2 install base and only sold 4m copies.

Lemme put it this way... a friend of mine and I are not that interested in getting Halo Reach. YOU'RE TELLING ME that you are going to find 2 people that DIDN'T buy Halo 3 that are going to go buy Halo Reach???

Come on, lets get real. It's a prequel!



Oh don't worry, one day you'll go over to a friend that has ODST and play the beta a bit, and when you do you'll realize that Reach will have the definitive MP ever to grace any game.  And that the campaign itself will be absurdly amazing.

Just a note: the majority of Halo players buy Halo's for the MP, not the single player.

The single player experience is one of the better experiences in any FPS period..

so I'd hope people atleast consider the Single player experience.

Even though the majority of Halo players will tell you that the MP is the best experience in any Halo game, a lot of them will play the campaign for 2 main reasons.

1. Because the Halo story and lore are really good and have an amazing amount of depth to them (probably like Mass Effect) 

2. Because they want different armors (this feature is really only applicable in Halo 3, but i'm sure Reach will also make you play through the campaign to get different armor)



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tuscaniman on 13 March 2010
leo-j said:
Im not going ape shit.. Im just giving you a clear response.. why are you going ape shit that Im not agreeing with the fact that I do not believe it will do HALO 3 numbers..

Probably because you feel the need to troll every 360 thread created. You have created this persona for yourself now live with it. You really annoy me as well and I'm not even here that much, but I'm here enough to see how much you troll.



BenVTrigger on 13 March 2010
ymeaga1n said:
BenVTrigger said:
ymeaga1n said:
themanwithnoname said:
ymeaga1n said:
Won't happen. Really guys, I'm a x360 fan and your predictions are making all of us look bad. I can give you a nice list of a bunch of games that didn't outsell the game they followed on the PS2 even though install base was doubled.

MGS2 was released when there was 15.5m PS2 install base and sold 5.58m copies. MSG3 (the prequel like Reach will be) had a 73.5m PS2 install base and only sold 4m copies.

Lemme put it this way... a friend of mine and I are not that interested in getting Halo Reach. YOU'RE TELLING ME that you are going to find 2 people that DIDN'T buy Halo 3 that are going to go buy Halo Reach???

Come on, lets get real. It's a prequel!




Well, if you wanna get technical. I have Halo 3 used, so when I buy Halo: Reach first day, I will be included in those figures whereas I'm not in Halo 3's. Also, Halo 2 > Halo 1. Just because Microsoft has a lot of Halo games does not mean everyone who could possibly be interested in Halo has already bought them.

Likewise I will likely buy Halo Reach used. I'm not hyped on Halo Reach like I was on Halo 3. Halo 3 was the shit..."Finish the Fight!". Halo Reach is....meh...that book I read about Reach that doesn't include Master Chief and I already know the outcome of. Trust me, there are plenty of people like me that aren't hyped for Reach.

And i'm pretty sure it's a safe to say that people who purchased Halo 3 used aren't going to be in long lines on launch day for Reach. 

Just for the record you do realize this is the Story of Noble Team and not Blue Team correct?  In other words this game has litteraly nothing to do with the book other than it takes place during the Fall of Reach.  We know what happened to John, Kelly, Linda and the rest but we have no idea what happened to Noble 6, Carter, Jorge and the rest of Team Noble.  This story is complely new and untold.

More like the book had shit to do with Reach. Never talks about what happens on Reach just that all the spartans aside from MC went there to fight. But since Reach fell and no other spartans appeared in any of the Halo games we can assume they died. 

Noble 6? Carter? Jorge? As a fan that played all 3 Halo game and read some books I don't even know who the heck those ppl are. And I've been on vgc for a years. I like to think I know more about game characters than casual FPS fans. If it's a new and untold story...shouldn't we be expecting sales along the lines of Halo 1??

ummmm  no offense but did you read the book?  The whole thing was about the Fall of Reach same thing with First Strike pretty much it picks up the story directly after Reachs Fall...also Noble 6, Carter, Jorge and them are the charecters in your squad in Reach.  They are all spartan III's other than Jorge who is a Spartan II.  They were a completley hidden and Blue Team as well as the rest of all the Spartan 2's and 3's had no idea they even existed.  Basically a Black Ops group among Spartans which is pretty freaking crazy considering that the Spartans themselves were top secret for most of the war.  Their existance didn't even become known until the UNSC told the troops about the unkillable Spartans in order to raise moral considering humanity was being absolutly anhilated by the covenant.  We have no idea what their mission on Reach was or why they never made any contact with any of the other know Spartan Teams on Reach. Reach's story is gonna be truly epic trust me on that.



leo-j on 13 March 2010
tuscaniman said:
leo-j said:
Im not going ape shit.. Im just giving you a clear response.. why are you going ape shit that Im not agreeing with the fact that I do not believe it will do HALO 3 numbers..

Probably because you feel the need to troll every 360 thread created. You have created this persona for yourself now live with it. You really annoy me as well and I'm not even here that much, but I'm here enough to see how much you troll.

if not agreeing with someone is considered trolling to you, then so be it I can never change that



 

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yo_john117 on 13 March 2010
ymeaga1n said:
BenVTrigger said:
ymeaga1n said:
themanwithnoname said:
ymeaga1n said:
Won't happen. Really guys, I'm a x360 fan and your predictions are making all of us look bad. I can give you a nice list of a bunch of games that didn't outsell the game they followed on the PS2 even though install base was doubled.

MGS2 was released when there was 15.5m PS2 install base and sold 5.58m copies. MSG3 (the prequel like Reach will be) had a 73.5m PS2 install base and only sold 4m copies.

Lemme put it this way... a friend of mine and I are not that interested in getting Halo Reach. YOU'RE TELLING ME that you are going to find 2 people that DIDN'T buy Halo 3 that are going to go buy Halo Reach???

Come on, lets get real. It's a prequel!




Well, if you wanna get technical. I have Halo 3 used, so when I buy Halo: Reach first day, I will be included in those figures whereas I'm not in Halo 3's. Also, Halo 2 > Halo 1. Just because Microsoft has a lot of Halo games does not mean everyone who could possibly be interested in Halo has already bought them.

Likewise I will likely buy Halo Reach used. I'm not hyped on Halo Reach like I was on Halo 3. Halo 3 was the shit..."Finish the Fight!". Halo Reach is....meh...that book I read about Reach that doesn't include Master Chief and I already know the outcome of. Trust me, there are plenty of people like me that aren't hyped for Reach.

And i'm pretty sure it's a safe to say that people who purchased Halo 3 used aren't going to be in long lines on launch day for Reach. 

Just for the record you do realize this is the Story of Noble Team and not Blue Team correct?  In other words this game has litteraly nothing to do with the book other than it takes place during the Fall of Reach.  We know what happened to John, Kelly, Linda and the rest but we have no idea what happened to Noble 6, Carter, Jorge and the rest of Team Noble.  This story is complely new and untold.

More like the book had shit to do with Reach. Never talks about what happens on Reach just that all the spartans aside from MC went there to fight. But since Reach fell and no other spartans appeared in any of the Halo games we can assume they died. 

Noble 6? Carter? Jorge? As a fan that played all 3 Halo game and read some books I don't even know who the heck those ppl are. And I've been on vgc for a years. I like to think I know more about game characters than casual FPS fans. If it's a new and untold story...shouldn't we be expecting sales along the lines of Halo 1??

Did Halo 1 have ONLINE multiplayer? or Forge, and theater? How about firefight? And did the Xbox have as big as an install base as the 360 has when Halo 1 came out?

If you can answer these questions you will begin to understand.



tuscaniman on 13 March 2010
CGI-Quality said:
All bullshit aside, I don't care what it sells, all I know is it'll have a themed Halo Reach 360 Bundle, with 250GB HDD and two controllers. I'm sold!





Don't ask me how I know that. Just consider it a hunch!

+1 to that list. I've never bought a bundled themed console but I will be doing it for Reach. Don't know what I'm gonna do with my other 360...sell it I guess. I don't need 5 controllers and 2 consoles :)