| Seece said: Ok so a few people here believe that Halo Reach stands absoloutely no chance to outsell Halo 3, or at least a difficult task. dont think it will reach wont have as good of legs as H3 did and does, its also unknown if the franchise is still favored as it once was Firstly I have to talk about this silly debate about Halo Wars and ODST putting players off Reach. Consumers arn't stupid. This is why Halo Wars only sold 600k first week, pales in comparison to the 3.8 million Halo 3 put up doesn't it?. So apparantly a "ton" of people bought Halo Wars unaware it was an RTS (because they're stupid) and decided that they were done with the Halo franchise, that it was stagnating, then Halo 3 ODST (CLEARLY) not a sequel of any kind, sells 2.2 mill first week. I was one of the few naive people that thought ODST could match Halo 3 numbers, but it was never going to happen. Consumers knew this was overpriced and an expansion like game, probably choosing to pick the game up used for the campaign and non matchmaking firefight. What put you off of Halo 3 but not ODST? if ODST is a over priced expansion why did you buy it on release but never bought Halo3 yet? Halo Wars and ODST have not put anyone off the Halo franchise. I firmly believe there are only a handful of people that have played Halo 3 and either/both Halo Wars and ODST, that feel the series is stagnating. Furthermore Reach doesn't need to have a "4" in front of it to sell, the buying public arnt given enough credit, they're not mindless zombies that can't read the back of a game. Halo Wars was an RTS, and ODST was, like I said, clearly an expansion type game. wasnt there a bunch of articles last year of people upset and wanting to return wars b/c they didnt know it was a RTS? http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=62852
Marketing wise, ODST and Wars didn't get anywhere near what Halo 3 did, but you can bet your bottom dollar Reach will. They're either going to match or try and outdo what Halo 3 did. My next point goes in favour of and against Halo Reach selling more. Call of Duty 4 was a fantastic game, didn't have a huge first week, but had massive legs. But most importantly, it had loyal fans/players, this in term with the massive marketing MW2 recieved, is why it did massive first week numbers and has already outsold MW1. Gears of War on the other hand, was similar to MW1, not a massive opening, but fantastic legs. Even though Gears 2 had a much better opening, it's legs havn't been nearly as good as the first, meaning lifetime sales are going to be the same more or less. i believe this will happen to reach bigger 1st week than H3 then quickly die down
Now it's up to you which game Halo Reach will take after, but Halo is far far more popular than Gears. Both Gears 2 and MW2 has had much better opens openings than their previous game, due to all the "legs" buyers purchasing it first day. So it shouldn't be too hard too imagin it will do 3.8+ million first week. In fact ... it's very difficult to think less than 10% of the 360 userbase is going to buy Reach, considering a massive 33% bought Halo 3 first week, and it hasn't dipped below a 25% attach rate since. Lastly, whatever people say Halo > MW in terms of Xbox players. MW2 is likely to outsell Halo 3 soon (ish) 1 million lead for Halo 3, MW2 outselling it at 60k a week atm, would take 5 months at least, but up until this point, Halo 3 has had better legs than MW1, so what why are you bring up MW1? and is generally considered the definitive shooter on the 360. Come Halo Reach, expect a bigger opening week than MW2, and better legs. Like I think bigger maybe the same or near MW2 but not legs of H3
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overall i think games like halo and KZ2 are not as big as they once were i think people enjoy the modern environments/weapons/characters of games like COD Bad Company and Metal of Honor more
MW2 sold 9M in 8 weeks H3 sold 7m in double the time and MW2 wasnt even marketed as much either also MW1 sold 4.2 in 8 weeks and WaW sold 4.3 in 8 weeks you be the judge on if Halo>COD games
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