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meatloaf73 said:
digital download? lol Nope. not liking it.
I only have dial up. Demo's take up to 6hrs for 2GB. What would a 50GB download take? A week? I live in the counrty, no Hispeed.

If they went DD only, they could offer kiosks in Game Stores that load the game straight to your HDD.

Secondly, I kinda like being able to trade in my old games. Much lighter on my wallet.

This is the only real set back.  No used market.  But I NEVER buy used games because they are not worth the paltry savings.

Imagine Having everything on your Hardrive and it crashing. All your games gone. Not a happy day.

With DD, you could get all those back.  Game saves would likely be cloud saved too.

Video Game rentals from Blockbuster? Gone. You buy a game and don't like it or finish it in a few hrs. No prob, trade it in and get a $40 credit... With downloadable games, Your stuck!!.

This is what demos are for.

Take you game to your friends house for the weekend? Not gonna happen.

The hard drives are detachable and work on any 360....

I could go on and on hmmmmmm

 



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Yet you failed to address the most pressing issues: You can't resell downloaded games, and once the current download/distribution service ends and your hardware breaks, you can't re-download your games.



"Well certainly with the Xbox 360, we had some challenges at the launch. Once we identified that we took control of it. We wanted to do it right by our customers. Our customers are very important to us." -Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb (10/2013). Note: RRoD was fixed with the Jasper-revision 3 years after the launch of 360

"People don't pay attention to a lot of the details."-Yusuf Mehdi explaining why Xbone DRM scheme would succeed

"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360,”-Don Mattrick

"The region locking of the 3DS wasn't done for profits on games"-MDMAlliance

Damnyouall said:

...And then the generation ends, your hdd breaks and you lose all your games.

 

lol

 

damned yourself there buddy



Damnyouall said:

Yes, I have seriously never used Steam or Xbox Live for purchasing games. I like to have physical copies of my games, which I can continue to play in 20 years, or sell as I please. Stupid, I know.

Lol good luck having hardware or physical media that still works 20 years after purchase.  It's becoming more and more rare these days.

Also, the timeframe I gave was just a guestimation.  I'm sure if companies went entirely DD they would offer a few servers for downloading older games from years and years ago which would see very low traffic compared to the new release servers.



Damnyouall said:
Yet you failed to address the most pressing issues: You can't resell downloaded games, and once the current download/distribution service ends and your hardware breaks, you can't re-download your games.

I actually did address this.  I said it was the only real setback.  Although buying used games is never worth it.  Save $3 and get a used, smudged, scratched version! YAY!  Lets not forget that developers would be recieving much larger profits from a DD model so would likely offer games cheaper and negate the need for a used market.

For the rest, please see my other post.  It covers the timeframe issue and the fact that physical media can expire just as well, if not even sooner than DD.  DD can be permanent if a company wants.  Physical media will always expire.



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Maybe if they continue to tell themselves this , maybe they will actually believe it, Any HD console would benefit from having bluray, no more 3-4 discs , more exclusive content. I told myself for years I did not need a 360 since I already had a PS3 , not now that I have one, yes I needed it, PS3 and 360 both have great exclusives that if you are a true gamer you will want to play.



Also, @Damnyouall, just one more slightly off topic question. Do you use cash or credit? Because you seem so fixated on physical media, yet I can almost guarantee you use digital payment methods more often than not. If you don't, then the whole physical media superiority is just a sign of your not willing to adjust to the times. You will see physical media purists slowly fade away as time goes on since DD is better in nearly every way imaginable (all but resale basically).



Damnyouall said:
Yet you failed to address the most pressing issues: You can't resell downloaded games, and once the current download/distribution service ends and your hardware breaks, you can't re-download your games.

 

 

Oh, so that's the most pressing issue ?

 

as for the "once the current download/distribution service ends and your hardware breaks, you can't re-download your games" statement

take Ultimate MK3 for instance. Discontinued since a few weeks ago but those who already purchased it can re-download it or years to come.

And you can make as many back-ups as you want.

 



Let us not forget how microsoft fucked PC users of the first gears of war. If I can't sell my game when I am fucked like that. I would be pissed. Both sides make sense. However as a digital medium for games. DD isn't quite there for the mass markets on the consoles. No doubt it does its fair share. But people are too used to getting real copies of the games.



And let's not forget the nice advantage digital distribution has for the corporations: No annoying competition. Yay, high prices. Monopolies FTW.



"Well certainly with the Xbox 360, we had some challenges at the launch. Once we identified that we took control of it. We wanted to do it right by our customers. Our customers are very important to us." -Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb (10/2013). Note: RRoD was fixed with the Jasper-revision 3 years after the launch of 360

"People don't pay attention to a lot of the details."-Yusuf Mehdi explaining why Xbone DRM scheme would succeed

"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360,”-Don Mattrick

"The region locking of the 3DS wasn't done for profits on games"-MDMAlliance