uh... I saw that tennis demo at the E3 and it was terrible...

Arc is coming considerably later than WM+. So it should be more accurate.

That said, with how late Arc is coming out versus the Wii, I'm not entirely sure the marker we should be using is WM+.

It is entirely possible that Nintendo is working on something new just as well.

Actually he cannot hit the ball because of the amazing precision of the Arc. He was in a 3D world, and its difficult to determine depth from a small notebook screen.

Arc can be also used in 2. This makes a whole new world. The accelerometer of Nunchuk Sux, and because of that it`s impossible to play a proper Archering or Boxing game. Sword and Shield should be nice with Arc too.

I only have a Wii and I hope that Sony delivers in this one, then i'll buy a Ps3.

Hate to tell ya, but WM+ IS true 1:1 It doesn't get more accurate than that, as I said before. What Sony and MS are doing are finding their own means of providing 1:1 motion control without infringing on Nintendo patents. So yes, they can provide a great 1:1 experience, but they all will be equally accurate, providing 1:1 motion controls. ANYONE who states that one system has better 1:1 controls is pretty much comparing 2 pools of water and saying one is wetter than the other.

Arc is better just look at the demo from E3 LAST year. Wiimote with WM can not do this level of accuracy. wii sports resort has a sword fighting game compare it with the demo.

Again, 1:1 doesn't mean much. 1:1 what? A rigid body has 6 degrees of freedom: 3 spacial coordinates and 3 angles. the Wiimote when not using the IR camera has no absolute postioning tracking, only rotation and acceleration detection.

Thus no, the systems are not equivalent. The accelerometers in the wiimote won't have enough resolution to calculate the exact position in certain cases, thus the software will be tailored to avoid this limitation.

You can say that it's still accurate enough to replicate 1:1 the user's movements in those controlled situations, but someone is equally right in saying that a solution based on an external camera can do the same in more situations. I'd call that a more accurate controller.

^^ Sorry man, but 1:1 is 1:1, where your body moves the controller translates. So they both do 1:1, neither does it better than the other, just different methods of tracking. Both are capable of tracking all movements coded by the software, not the hardware, so its at the limitation of what the game developer makes.

Also, MOVE (not Arc) still doesn't have a nunchuck type device for input of character motion, so the controller will be limited to action movements.

Please read what i wrote previously. Starting from step zero each time won't lead us anywhere. I explained what kind of body movements can't be exactly tracked by the wiimote, but can be tracked by an external camera.

Also please go read any report about the announcements. The subcontroller for your left hand has been anounced. It has an analog stick, two triggers, two buttons and a d-pad. Game press tried it out in a few demos, one of which was an alpha of SOCOM 4, and wrote articles about it. You can see it in oh so many pictures, one of which is right on the front page of this very website.

These people commenting on how the Wii works as if they know it by design but never even played with M+... Don't even own a Wii for that matter.

ya I rescind that, the main controller looked so much like the nunchuck, I glanced it over in the gallery.

You explained what kind of body movments cant be tracked, but thats YHO. Show me proof of what one can do better than the other, dont tell me what you believe it can and cant do. Anyone can try to push theory as fact without a source.