mirgro said: twesterm said: Yeah, anyone who says anything other than talk to your parents is just wrong. I actually give a giant nod of respect to your parents for actively trying to parent you. Hooray for good parents! You're 13, find your porn somewhere else, all us 25+ year old managed fine without porn overflowing from our computers, I'm sure you can too. Hooray for thinking all 13 year olds are in the same developmental stages and that content would actually somehow alter development. What a child sees is not near as important as how to think and utilize in their heads what they have seen. Good parenting was never about censoring, but explaining thoroughly the meaning of a given thing. Yes there are extreme cases which just shouldn't be seen, but that content is unsuitable for anyone in any age group. It's far more important to expose a perosn and explain everything to them. One day they will see whatever content was there and if it was not explained it will have almost the same effect as if they saw it at an earlier age. Just outright censoring is a sign of lazy and/or incompetent parenting.

The funny thing about generalizations and stereotypes is that they're generally right.

He's 13 year old boy wanting to get around his parents internet filters, he's probably looking for porn.  He could be looking for something else, but the safe bet is he's looking for porn.

And you're right, it's up to the parents.  It's obvious his parents don't want him to see that for whatever reason.  You can go into a long rant like you did, but I have the funny feeling his parents have already made their decision known.  If not, then if he actually follows the good advice in this thread, being the good parents they sound like they are, they will probably make their positions known.

mirgro said: twesterm said: Yeah, anyone who says anything other than talk to your parents is just wrong. I actually give a giant nod of respect to your parents for actively trying to parent you. Hooray for good parents! You're 13, find your porn somewhere else, all us 25+ year old managed fine without porn overflowing from our computers, I'm sure you can too. Hooray for thinking all 13 year olds are in the same developmental stages and that content would actually somehow alter development. What a child sees is not near as important as how to think and utilize in their heads what they have seen. Good parenting was never about censoring, but explaining thoroughly the meaning of a given thing. Yes there are extreme cases which just shouldn't be seen, but that content is unsuitable for anyone in any age group. It's far more important to expose a perosn and explain everything to them. One day they will see whatever content was there and if it was not explained it will have almost the same effect as if they saw it at an earlier age. Just outright censoring is a sign of lazy and/or incompetent parenting.

Mirgro, I would say that you are only partially correct in your statement. Parenting is taking part in your child's development. It is knowing how mature your kid is and what they can handle and what they cannot. It is also explaining why things are the way they are in a manner that they can understand. It is also punishing your child for doing stupid thing and going disobeying rules. It is also censoring the child from things that you know are harmful so that they can grow up and develop naturally.

Raistline said: mirgro said: twesterm said: Yeah, anyone who says anything other than talk to your parents is just wrong. I actually give a giant nod of respect to your parents for actively trying to parent you. Hooray for good parents! You're 13, find your porn somewhere else, all us 25+ year old managed fine without porn overflowing from our computers, I'm sure you can too. Hooray for thinking all 13 year olds are in the same developmental stages and that content would actually somehow alter development. What a child sees is not near as important as how to think and utilize in their heads what they have seen. Good parenting was never about censoring, but explaining thoroughly the meaning of a given thing. Yes there are extreme cases which just shouldn't be seen, but that content is unsuitable for anyone in any age group. It's far more important to expose a perosn and explain everything to them. One day they will see whatever content was there and if it was not explained it will have almost the same effect as if they saw it at an earlier age. Just outright censoring is a sign of lazy and/or incompetent parenting. Mirgro, I would say that you are only partially correct in your statement. Parenting is taking part in your child's development. It is knowing how mature your kid is and what they can handle and what they cannot. It is also explaining why things are the way they are in a manner that they can understand. It is also punishing your child for doing stupid thing and going disobeying rules. It is also censoring the child from things that you know are harmful so that they can grow up and develop naturally.

Don't get me wrong, I believe in censorship, however on a much smaller scale than what most parents generally do as a default. I fully agree with punishment as well, however both censorship and punishment need to be very well explained for tieher of those tactics to be called good parenting, anything else and it's just lazy parenting.

On another note, 13 is actually the age when normal humans hit puberty. Naturally that is when children should start learning about sex and anatomy and other such things. The whole "not until 18., or evenbetter, marriage" is a social standard and not a natural one, which many people mistake. Impeding a child's knowledge at that age about sex iswhat goes against natural development in reality. Not that they shuold be watching gang orgies.

Just live with it... when your older you will understand why your parents protected you.. off topic here is just a tiny tiny glimp of the scary stuff out there on the net...

and don't trust bears with candy!

Well, I was tracked by the  remote spy software  last time. I didn't tried to get rid of it but failed. And I formated my computer at last!! Good luck!

parents are always like using child-control tools to restrict their children. So does mine. poor kids.  :(

There's  a difference between going on the Internet and browsing porn.  Clearly their intention based on the filter is to prevent you from doing the latter.

In my day, there was no Internet.  You either watched squiggly lines on blocked cable channels for Playboy or Cinemax, found someone's stash of porn (odd how often this happened), or walked into a book store and stood in the adult section and read the magazines.  Luckily it wasn't until later that porn got restricted to 18+ only.

I mean, there was a time when turning 16 not only meant you could legally drive, but you could also walk into a store and legally buy porn.

What we were able to see when I was a pre-teen/teen, is tame compared to what is on the Internet, however.  While I personally don't think seeing the human body naked is damaging, I'm not your parents, and there's no way to prevent you from seeing graphic pornography while allowing you to see erotic images.

My guess is that there is a reason why they felt it necessary to block certain sites.  If you feel you're old enough (you're not) to go online without parental guidance, then feel free to sit them down and talk to them.  If there are non-porn sites which are blocked, then talk to them, if your parents are reasonable they'll unblock them if they know how to.