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Doobie_wop said:
Lord Flashheart said:
You go to the PS3 threads more because i've been in plenty with out trolling.

Funny how I've been in like six today and all of them were completely negative... either Sony has ripped off the Wii, Killzone 2's controls suck, Sony is gonna lose it's fans or Natal and Wii are the only competitors in the casual market. All have plenty of random trolling and some of the thread's have been created with trolling in mind. Once, again, it happens, you just pick the negative comments out more often than the positive or you take offense far to easily.

See how many of them get derailed compared to MS threads. You can't compare or maybe you're picking out the negative comments in sony threads and been too sensitive to it.

And I have been in many sony threads and they've been troll free.

Try proving I haven't.



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joeorc said:
NightAntilli said:
joeorc said:
Lord Flashheart said:
Funnt howe its his point of view but any time it's "only possible on the PS3" it's fact and never questioned.

well SAYING SOMETHING IS A FACT WHEN THEY STATE "FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW" IS NOT A FACT IS IT?

NO IT'S AN OPINION.

both side's are at faut for that so it's not just Sony fan's.

so why just single out fans from one side?

/ just saying not directed @ you  because your cool like that.

When anyone says something, it's from their perspective. I mean, as an example, Naughty Dog stated they are sure they wouldn't be able to run UC2 on the X360. They didn't say "from our point of view", but that does not mean that it is NOT from their point of view. They probably didn't even program for the X360 so how could they even know? If the whole "opinion" thing is your argument, you might as well throw ALL statements out the window because we can turn all of them into opinions.

your getting the IDEA now!

that is exactly what i am talking about. you do know that's talking from their perspective because they programmed it right from the start on the playstation 3.

Its the same thing when cliffy B said "gear's would not work" on the PS3 they are not saying they could not make a game, what they are saying as the game stand's!

it's like you can make any game work on any machine, but IT may not be the same game across all platform's.

that's why there is

Multi-platform game engines

an

custom built Game Engine's

both are not saying anything that is not out of the relm of "the way they see it" that does not mean that someone else will agree with them.

it's all Opinion's based on their EXPERIENCE and skill .

John Carmack is very good, I respect him very much, just like Mike Acton i respect him very much, you will have both developer's that will give their Opinion's on what experiences they have had.

 

You're clutching at straws now. So you know when they said something it was from their point of view. So you'll be telling sony fanboys or even just fans when they say the PS3 is more powerful or God of War 3 can't run on the 360 it's just their opinion?

Didn't think so. Also whats your take on the God of War cant run on 360 comment? Is that opinion? because they passed it of as fact.

ALSO  I WASN'T QUESTIONING THE "MY POINT OF VIEW" COMMENT I WAS QUESTIONING PEOPLES RESPONSES TO IT AND THEIR COMPLETE REVERSAL IN ATTITUDES WHEN IT COMES TO SOMETHING A SONY DEV SAYS. LIKE YOU I KNOW NAUGHTY DOG ARE TALKING OUT OF THEIR ARSES. I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY. Please don't use caps. It's rude.



Lord Flashheart said:
Doobie_wop said:
Lord Flashheart said:
You go to the PS3 threads more because i've been in plenty with out trolling.

Funny how I've been in like six today and all of them were completely negative... either Sony has ripped off the Wii, Killzone 2's controls suck, Sony is gonna lose it's fans or Natal and Wii are the only competitors in the casual market. All have plenty of random trolling and some of the thread's have been created with trolling in mind. Once, again, it happens, you just pick the negative comments out more often than the positive or you take offense far to easily.

See how many of them get derailed compared to MS threads. You can't compare or maybe you're picking out the negative comments in sony threads and been too sensitive to it.

And I have been in many sony threads and they've been troll free.

Try proving I haven't.

I think it has more to do with the  tone of the thread's, many fan's from one side point toward "their bragging"

than the y start a thread" bragging" than

the thread's degenerate with back and forth from each side!

it's just that many thread's on this site have more PS3 poster's, threre are xbox360 fan's that post here, but both side's have people that post thread's that they know start trouble!

one side is just as much fault as the other.

"And I have been in many sony threads and they've been troll free."

because maybe your a good poster!



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

joeorc said:
Lord Flashheart said:
Doobie_wop said:
Lord Flashheart said:
You go to the PS3 threads more because i've been in plenty with out trolling.

Funny how I've been in like six today and all of them were completely negative... either Sony has ripped off the Wii, Killzone 2's controls suck, Sony is gonna lose it's fans or Natal and Wii are the only competitors in the casual market. All have plenty of random trolling and some of the thread's have been created with trolling in mind. Once, again, it happens, you just pick the negative comments out more often than the positive or you take offense far to easily.

See how many of them get derailed compared to MS threads. You can't compare or maybe you're picking out the negative comments in sony threads and been too sensitive to it.

And I have been in many sony threads and they've been troll free.

Try proving I haven't.

I think it has more to do with the  tone of the thread's, many fan's from one side point toward "their bragging"

than the y start a thread" bragging" than

the thread's degenerate with back and forth from each side!

it's just that many thread's on this site have more PS3 poster's, threre are xbox360 fan's that post here, but both side's have people that post thread's that they know start trouble!

one side is just as much fault as the other.

"And I have been in many sony threads and they've been troll free."

because maybe your a good poster!

I agree with all apart from the bolded. One side is clearly worse than the others. I would say that there are posters on all sides that sink to the same low level but one side has them in abundance. That alone makes their sides trollers worse and the point isn't who's the worst but why do 360 threads sink to such deprived levels it would make Soho look like Kensington and it is mostly because of one sides over abundance in these bridge dwellers.

I am offended. Are you saying a thread only descends to Roman party type debauchary because of me!!! And please don't use any of my post to prove your point

Maybe you're right



Lord Flashheart said:
joeorc said:
NightAntilli said:
joeorc said:
Lord Flashheart said:
Funnt howe its his point of view but any time it's "only possible on the PS3" it's fact and never questioned.

well SAYING SOMETHING IS A FACT WHEN THEY STATE "FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW" IS NOT A FACT IS IT?

NO IT'S AN OPINION.

both side's are at faut for that so it's not just Sony fan's.

so why just single out fans from one side?

/ just saying not directed @ you  because your cool like that.

When anyone says something, it's from their perspective. I mean, as an example, Naughty Dog stated they are sure they wouldn't be able to run UC2 on the X360. They didn't say "from our point of view", but that does not mean that it is NOT from their point of view. They probably didn't even program for the X360 so how could they even know? If the whole "opinion" thing is your argument, you might as well throw ALL statements out the window because we can turn all of them into opinions.

your getting the IDEA now!

that is exactly what i am talking about. you do know that's talking from their perspective because they programmed it right from the start on the playstation 3.

Its the same thing when cliffy B said "gear's would not work" on the PS3 they are not saying they could not make a game, what they are saying as the game stand's!

it's like you can make any game work on any machine, but IT may not be the same game across all platform's.

that's why there is

Multi-platform game engines

an

custom built Game Engine's

both are not saying anything that is not out of the relm of "the way they see it" that does not mean that someone else will agree with them.

it's all Opinion's based on their EXPERIENCE and skill .

John Carmack is very good, I respect him very much, just like Mike Acton i respect him very much, you will have both developer's that will give their Opinion's on what experiences they have had.

 

You're clutching at straws now. So you know when they said something it was from their point of view. So you'll be telling sony fanboys or even just fans when they say the PS3 is more powerful or God of War 3 can't run on the 360 it's just their opinion?

Didn't think so. Also whats your take on the God of War cant run on 360 comment? Is that opinion? because they passed it of as fact.

ALSO  I WASN'T QUESTIONING THE "MY POINT OF VIEW" COMMENT I WAS QUESTIONING PEOPLES RESPONSES TO IT AND THEIR COMPLETE REVERSAL IN ATTITUDES WHEN IT COMES TO SOMETHING A SONY DEV SAYS. LIKE YOU I KNOW NAUGHTY DOG ARE TALKING OUT OF THEIR ARSES. I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY. Please don't use caps. It's rude.

when the developer's states that GOD of war cannot run or GEARS of war cannot run" on said platform they are saying "as it stand's now!

how would the game run for example with sixaxis controll's on the xbox360?

that's because there is there is no sixaxis on the xbox360, now that's just an example

it's like when the developer get's asked a question what make's the game unique that could not be done on said platform, the developer is giving his Opinion on why something will not run . does that mean they could'nt?

most likely not as the game is right then an there,

that does it mean they could not get the game to run.?

no,

but on the same token it would not be the same game.

 



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

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Lord Flashheart said:
joeorc said:
Lord Flashheart said:
Doobie_wop said:
Lord Flashheart said:
You go to the PS3 threads more because i've been in plenty with out trolling.

Funny how I've been in like six today and all of them were completely negative... either Sony has ripped off the Wii, Killzone 2's controls suck, Sony is gonna lose it's fans or Natal and Wii are the only competitors in the casual market. All have plenty of random trolling and some of the thread's have been created with trolling in mind. Once, again, it happens, you just pick the negative comments out more often than the positive or you take offense far to easily.

See how many of them get derailed compared to MS threads. You can't compare or maybe you're picking out the negative comments in sony threads and been too sensitive to it.

And I have been in many sony threads and they've been troll free.

Try proving I haven't.

I think it has more to do with the  tone of the thread's, many fan's from one side point toward "their bragging"

than the y start a thread" bragging" than

the thread's degenerate with back and forth from each side!

it's just that many thread's on this site have more PS3 poster's, threre are xbox360 fan's that post here, but both side's have people that post thread's that they know start trouble!

one side is just as much fault as the other.

"And I have been in many sony threads and they've been troll free."

because maybe your a good poster!

I agree with all apart from the bolded. One side is clearly worse than the others. I would say that there are posters on all sides that sink to the same low level but one side has them in abundance. That alone makes their sides trollers worse and the point isn't who's the worst but why do 360 threads sink to such deprived levels it would make Soho look like Kensington and it is mostly because of one sides over abundance in these bridge dwellers.

I am offended. Are you saying a thread only descends to Roman party type debauchary because of me!!! And please don't use any of my post to prove your point

Maybe you're right

no I am saying your a pretty level headed person who post's here,



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

didn't see
just saying not directed @ you because your cool like that.
If you want to keep your credibility then I would lie like that. Don't take the caps thing to seriously. But it does irk me some.



joeorc said:
Lord Flashheart said:

I agree with all apart from the bolded. One side is clearly worse than the others. I would say that there are posters on all sides that sink to the same low level but one side has them in abundance. That alone makes their sides trollers worse and the point isn't who's the worst but why do 360 threads sink to such deprived levels it would make Soho look like Kensington and it is mostly because of one sides over abundance in these bridge dwellers.

I am offended. Are you saying a thread only descends to Roman party type debauchary because of me!!! And please don't use any of my post to prove your point

Maybe you're right

no I am saying your a pretty level headed person who post's here,

Seriously

Comments like that will lose you all your credibility



Impulsivity said:

   I've owned something like 14 different systems since the 80s (NES, Genesis, SNES, N64, PSX, PS2, PS3, 360, Xbox, Dreamcast, Game boy, DS, PSP, iphone) and none of them made me shell out cash for basic functionality after I bought the system except for the MS consoles.  Technically Sega had seganet for the dreamcast, but that included being your ISP in the fee.  If the 360's gold included an internet connection service in the cost I'd be fine with it since it's value added not just charging me for something that should be included.

 It's that nickle and dime mentality that I dislike.  I would rather just pay 100 bucks more up front then pay a little less then get hit with hundreds in add on fees some perpetually.  If Microsoft cut that out next time around I would give their console a chance again (I've owned both a Xbox and 360 though sold both) I just don't know if it's in their DNA to deal with customers straight up like Nintendo and Sony do (well for the most part).

  I think a lot of the 360 negativity is from former 360 owners who had one issue or another with their console.  At 35 million sold I'm pretty sure almost every gamer on here has either had a 360 or had a friend whose 360 they've used.  It's not some irrational hate based on no experience.  Look me up on windows live/xbox live, same user name (Impulsivity).  I have over a 10k Gamerscore from when I played so you can't say I didn't give it a chance.

I take it you never saved games? Obviously a save game facility is something which ought to have come with the box. So I take it you didn't disregard the PS1/PS2 because they didn't advertise that you needed a memory card to save?

Edit and an HD cable for a system which proports to be an HD system, thats why I bolded the PS3.



Do you know what its like to live on the far side of Uranus?

Lord Flashheart said:
joeorc said:
Lord Flashheart said:

I agree with all apart from the bolded. One side is clearly worse than the others. I would say that there are posters on all sides that sink to the same low level but one side has them in abundance. That alone makes their sides trollers worse and the point isn't who's the worst but why do 360 threads sink to such deprived levels it would make Soho look like Kensington and it is mostly because of one sides over abundance in these bridge dwellers.

I am offended. Are you saying a thread only descends to Roman party type debauchary because of me!!! And please don't use any of my post to prove your point

Maybe you're right

no I am saying your a pretty level headed person who post's here,

Seriously

Comments like that will lose you all your credibility :-

Yea, your pretty cool, you united Kingdom chap's are allright.

I mean how can you not be?

when to wake some one up in the morning is:

"I am going to knock you up in the morning"

I told that to my wife  one morning ,

the look on her face was priceless

and then I said get your mind out of the gutter women!



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.