They tested the "Full" power of the Cell and Xenos, they are shown above. Xenos is slightly better than the Cell.

360 OS uses less RAM and the 360 RAM can be shared so again the 360 is superior.

no..it's not. for one they make many guess.

and IBM say's otherwise, you know the one's who made both processor's.

What "Guesses" have they made?

And IBM said "theoretically" the Cell was better than Xenos when it was tested it wasnt.

I call bull sH!T. why because their so call proof is a guess:

this is the first line:

According to IBM’s white pages, the cell processor being used in the ps3 is considerably less powerful than what it has been hyped up to be.

bull shit, it's it's the same d@mn processor that was in the high class server's.

9 cores

1 disabled IE: the 8th core spe was for redundance IE meshed era redundance. IE the d@mn security vault.

so it's not considerably less powerful, it is just as powerful.

2nd

rage 3d claim's

The xbox

where IBM states it's

the xbox360's processor does 77 GFLOP's

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/0130/076.html

3)

again rage 3d claim's

**SPE’s are floating point processors, they are also called DSP’s, and SPU’s. These floating point processors are NOT to be confused with cores, cores have far more prediction and calculation braches than floating point processors. As stated earlier, the 360 has 3 cores, each running at 3.2GHz, with 2 threads each. The cell also runs at 3.2GHz, but is the one and only core that the ps3 has.

where as the people who designed the d@mn processor who have PHD's, many year's experience in chip design

call it what they are

Core's

you cannot be a multiple-core design with only one core

Basic Processing Element(s)

Cell is composed of nine processing elements: a standard PowerPC core, and eight SIMD cores. In addition, there is a dual XDR memory controller, and two I/O controllers. The processing cores, as of rev3, run at 3.2GHz.

Program Model

Two seperate programs are written. First, the explicitly software controlled memory SPE program is written. It may be necessary to use intrinsics in the inner loops to fully exploit the SPEs computational capabilities. The SPE program is then embedded within a standard PowerPC program. The PowerPC program creates SPE threads passing a pointer the embedded SPE program to them. All 10 threads operate independently, and are explicitly synchronized by the programmer.

ps:

On development for Rage. "...and we're trying to say pretty plainly that this is going to be the one thing that the PS3 version is gonna be better at, and in fact it's almost the worst sort of thing for Microsoft there because we are having to work twice as hard on the PS3 to bring it up to spec. But in the end it's going to be 60fps game, and it's going to wind up looking just like the 360, we just had to sweat lot more for it. And if it winds up getting a benefit because of the blu-ray and having the better compression on there, then it's going to wind up looking like the PS3 was the better machine, even though it really wasn't...

- John Carmack Unplugged

please..please Microsoft if I say good thing's reduce the Licence fee's on multiple-disc's

I call bull sH!T. why because their so call proof is a guess:

this is the first line:

According to IBM’s white pages, the cell processor being used in the ps3 is considerably less powerful than what it has been hyped up to be.

bull shit, it's it's the same d@mn processor that was in the high class server's.

9 cores

1 disabled IE: the 8th core spe was for redundance IE meshed era redundance. IE the d@mn security vault.

so it's not considerably less powerful, it is just as powerful.

2nd

rage 3d claim's

The xbox

where IBM states it's

the xbox360's processor does 77 GFLOP's

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/0130/076.html

3)

again rage 3d claim's

**SPE’s are floating point processors, they are also called DSP’s, and SPU’s. These floating point processors are NOT to be confused with cores, cores have far more prediction and calculation braches than floating point processors. As stated earlier, the 360 has 3 cores, each running at 3.2GHz, with 2 threads each. The cell also runs at 3.2GHz, but is the one and only core that the ps3 has.

where as the people who designed the d@mn processor who have PHD's, many year's experience in chip design

call it what they are

Core's

you cannot be a multiple-core design with only one core

Basic Processing Element(s)

Cell is composed of nine processing elements: a standard PowerPC core, and eight SIMD cores. In addition, there is a dual XDR memory controller, and two I/O controllers. The processing cores, as of rev3, run at 3.2GHz.

Program Model

Two seperate programs are written. First, the explicitly software controlled memory SPE program is written. It may be necessary to use intrinsics in the inner loops to fully exploit the SPEs computational capabilities. The SPE program is then embedded within a standard PowerPC program. The PowerPC program creates SPE threads passing a pointer the embedded SPE program to them. All 10 threads operate independently, and are explicitly synchronized by the programmer.

ps:

On development for Rage. "...and we're trying to say pretty plainly that this is going to be the one thing that the PS3 version is gonna be better at, and in fact it's almost the worst sort of thing for Microsoft there because we are having to work twice as hard on the PS3 to bring it up to spec. But in the end it's going to be 60fps game, and it's going to wind up looking just like the 360, we just had to sweat lot more for it. And if it winds up getting a benefit because of the blu-ray and having the better compression on there, then it's going to wind up looking like the PS3 was the better machine, even though it really wasn't...

- John Carmack Unplugged

please..please Microsoft if I say good thing's reduce the Licence fee's on multiple-disc's

joeorc said: Garnett said: joeorc said: Garnett said: I call bull sH!T. why because their so call proof is a guess: this is the first line: According to IBM’s white pages, the cell processor being used in the ps3 is considerably less powerful than what it has been hyped up to be. bull shit, it's it's the same d@mn processor that was in the high class server's. 9 cores 1 disabled IE: the 8th core spe was for redundance IE meshed era redundance. IE the d@mn security vault. so it's not considerably less powerful, it is just as powerful. 2nd rage 3d claim's The xbox 360 has 3 general-purpose 2-threaded CPU's, which generates a proven 115.2 GFLOP’s which is dramatically easier for developers to utilize. By now it should be pathetically obvious that sony is no where near as far ahead as they try to lead you to think (keep in mind they claimed that the ps2 was more powerful than the original xbox, but were proven wrong publicly, since the xbox was indeed twice as powerful). The ps3 will, once you have taken into account thetotal amount of resources that will be used by their respective operating systems, end up with less CPU power available for graphical and physics processing than the 360.   where IBM states it's the xbox360's processor does 77 GFLOP's http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/0130/076.html 3) again rage 3d claim's **SPE’s are floating point processors, they are also called DSP’s, and SPU’s. These floating point processors are NOT to be confused with cores, cores have far more prediction and calculation braches than floating point processors. As stated earlier, the 360 has 3 cores, each running at 3.2GHz, with 2 threads each. The cell also runs at 3.2GHz, but is the one and only core that the ps3 has. where as the people who designed the d@mn processor who have PHD's, many year's experience in chip design call it what they are Core's you cannot be a multiple-core design with only one core Basic Processing Element(s) Cell is composed of nine processing elements: a standard PowerPC core, and eight SIMD cores. In addition, there is a dual XDR memory controller, and two I/O controllers. The processing cores, as of rev3, run at 3.2GHz. Program Model Two seperate programs are written. First, the explicitly software controlled memory SPE program is written. It may be necessary to use intrinsics in the inner loops to fully exploit the SPEs computational capabilities. The SPE program is then embedded within a standard PowerPC program. The PowerPC program creates SPE threads passing a pointer the embedded SPE program to them. All 10 threads operate independently, and are explicitly synchronized by the programmer. ps: On development for Rage. "...and we're trying to say pretty plainly that this is going to be the one thing that the PS3 version is gonna be better at, and in fact it's almost the worst sort of thing for Microsoft there because we are having to work twice as hard on the PS3 to bring it up to spec. But in the end it's going to be 60fps game, and it's going to wind up looking just like the 360, we just had to sweat lot more for it. And if it winds up getting a benefit because of the blu-ray and having the better compression on there, then it's going to wind up looking like the PS3 was the better machine, even though it really wasn't... - John Carmack Unplugged   please..please Microsoft if I say good thing's reduce the Licence fee's on multiple-disc's

You do know that link you posted was from 2006? Before the PS3 even launched..

Second i never said 360 was alot more powerful.

"These floating point processors are NOT to be confused with cores, cores have far more prediction and calculation braches than floating point processors. As stated earlier, the 360 has 3 cores, each running at 3.2GHz, with 2 threads each. The cell also runs at 3.2GHz, but is the one and only core that the ps3 has."

Thats just adding to 360 is more powerful, we know the power is there (Xbox360) and the cell could of been more powerful but it proved it wasnt.

"then it's going to wind up looking like the PS3 was the better machine, even though it really wasn't..."

The guy himself said the 360 was the better machine. 

that is so wrong I do not even know where to start.

Essentially all you need to say is this. For years and years the multiplatform developers have said that the systems are essentially equals in terms of performance and equal performance is what has been yielded out of the machines. A game like Battlefield Bad Company 2 pushes the PS3 harder computationally than Killzone 2 and yet both systems are running fine side by side.

Whats the exclusive difference?

A. Sony spends more money.

B. Exclusives are ahead of the pack due to the exclusive attention given to one system, the programmers not being divided over more than one platform essentially.

Never before have two consoles been so identical.

• Same memory quantity.
• Same basic CPU instruction set
• GPUs designed to meet the same DirectX specification
• Similar number of transistors overall

Xbox 360 = PS3 = Xbox 360 = PS3 computationally. They are the HD twins for a very good reason.