thanks for all your help, and from the things i have read so far the health care plan is shitty.

I heard that that Bill will be 24,000 pages long

24,000 pages. I wonder how they plan to disseminate that? One huge leather bound 36" monstrosity? Individual chapters? Imagine how long it would take to download and print at home.
Much less how long to actually read it. Even at 100 pages read per day, that's a 240 day project.

a page a day would take more than 65 years, lol

trashleg said: a page a day would take more than 65 years, lol

We'd have replaced every single member of Congress by that point and the cycle would have started all over again. 

Viper1 said: trashleg said: a page a day would take more than 65 years, lol We'd have replaced every single member of Congress by that point and the cycle would have started all over again.

not to mention that they'd all, more likely than not, have kicked the bucket.

in fact, a lot of vgcharterz will probably have croaked it by then too, because they'll still be waiting for their super-duper health care bill to be passed

Well put.

I think on the grounds of principle alone that if you cannot peruse the entirety of the legislation that it should be scrapped and we start over. This way if you really want your bill passed, don't rewrite War and Peace with 500 extra chapters.

I wouldn't say that exactly. It's not shitty, it's just pushing for reform. The USA's healthcare system needs reform. Yes it's good for those who can afford it or are given good insurance. But for most people it is pretty bad, Medicaid and Medicare are grossly innefficient and so those that use those systems recieve poor quality healthcare; and then there's those who recieve no healthcare because they don't qualify for government systems or have insurance.

Obama recognises that the USA's healthcare needs reforming, unfortunately his proposed plan is prone to criticism because of a few errors that would cause it to be innefficient, etc...

I think most people recognise the fact that reform is needed. I don't think it's a case of it being a bad plan, it's just that many people want the plan to be changed so a shitty system isn't replaced with another shitty system.

Well, that's the problem, Highwaystar. We would be replacing a problematic system with an even more problematic system.

Peruse this thread for our reasons why.

Namely if you consider how bad Medicaid and MediCare are, why suspect an even bigger medical program would be any better?

It does seem from what I've read and seen about this a lot of people have already made their mind up that whatever comes in won't work and be worse.
I'n not sure that congress knows what's going to replace it so it seems like jumping the gun.